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tahitijack
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Oct 5th, 2017 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

About 250,000 years ago they flew in had a look and moved on. We may never see them again.

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Oct 5th, 2017 05:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The ancient drawings of 'space visitors' (two antennae on their heads) are probably an anthropomorphism of insects and beetles.

We have to remember these ancient artists did not have brains as developed as ours are (color perception, etc.) and were drawing things they saw, combined with things they imagined. Compare it to the scribblings of a four-year-old and it all makes sense.

Out interpretations of these drawings are polluted by our own reality--which includes the TV show

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Oct 5th, 2017 06:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If we were visited by ancient aliens I can almost bet their musical contribution to us was the theremin.

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Oct 5th, 2017 06:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh man, someone has to make a theremin that looks like Ray Walston's head.

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Oct 5th, 2017 08:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“What’s up with the general media assumption that all the efforts and success of humanity is by the influence of Aliens, off world intelligence. Did mom and dad let the young ones fall asleep while the TV was playing Star Wars?

How can “Ancient Aliens” be in it’s 12th season. I started watching it because of the Archeology, mainstream wasn’t dealing with, probably because they’re still under study. It gave me new sources of sites. ”

Wait Star Wars isn’t a docu-drama? What DID happen a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away then??

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Oct 6th, 2017 05:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used to watch the show for the first couple seasons and knew already of many of the questions and theories. All the good theories pretty much ran out and their completely lunatic stories and theories started dominating the show. Instead of posing questions in the manner that Von Daneken does, the clowns on show talk about far fetched theories like they are fact.

The ancient battery that was found in Irag is a perfect example of creating a device and not seeing what the true potential of it. It obviously did not get made for powering anything but probable was used by Priests for making some sort of magic to scare the masses and keep them right where they want them.

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Oct 6th, 2017 06:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm thinking its like a movie I once watched. The aliens came to earth, stole several kids, male and female pairs, then sent them to uninhabited planets. Called each, Adam and Eve.

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Oct 6th, 2017 07:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the battery was used for electroplating. They may not have fully understood the physics, at least not they same way we understand it.

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Oct 6th, 2017 08:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As interested as I might be about the topic, I just can't watch the show.

"The Ancient Alien guys cloak their argument in classical logic taking liberties with false premises."


Indeed:
"Some sort of flying machine is etched in this Egyptian wall. IF it was a machine, and IF it was indeed flying...COULD IT BE that these were symbols of a visiting alien intelligence?...And IF they did visit, IS IT POSSIBLE that they influenced blah, blah, blah?????"

Yeah, and IF my aunt had balls, could she possibly be my uncle?
So stupid. Any idiot can ask "IF?"


as far as life on our planet goes, I've mentioned my view before. It seems SO UNLIKELY that life could have developed here (Earth) as it did...that it seems nearly impossible that it could have happened elsewhere.


I also like to think about this, as far as "evolution" goes: the eye (human or any animal).
Was there ANY reason for ANY life form to have "developed" an eye?
No. It's just no logical. There had to be design involved. It just would not evolve.
I'm not saying things don't change or "evolve" over time.
But it's like saying my newspaper will eventually grow an arm, if given enough time. Why would it?

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Oct 6th, 2017 09:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Actually, the evolution of the eye is fairly straightforward in terms of why and how it started. It began as a photosensitive patch of cells on a microorganism which could direct it towards light. Presumably to help photosynthesis, and/or regulate day and night cycles. If the cells developed into a pit it would make the structure more accurate in sensing the direction of the light. If a pit deepened to the extent that it only had a very small opening over it, bingo you have a pinhole camera. From there it's a relatively small step to develop a lens.

The scientists tell us that all this is due to random mutations and natural selection, other traditions tell us that it is down to a divine plan. Personally I think that it is both. Nature has a goal, call it a divine plan if you like, to fill ecological niches and develop forms to their fullest potential. And the science explains the mechanism by which this happens.

Having both these viewpoints come together in one model tends to annoy the followers of each one; they each need to make the other wrong to justify their beliefs. Science has recently shown a quantum effect, an 'outside influence' on living things, (google quantum photosynthesis) so perhaps one day it might show a similar influence on evolution, which might answer some of the questions around the rate of evolutionary change.

And I very much doubt that aliens had anything to do with it, dropping DNA into the primordial soup, or messing with monkeys. "And this is the gene for ginger hair, and this is the gene for appreciating the sound of bagpipes..."

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Oct 6th, 2017 09:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Vomer, I have thought the same thing.

If you are not caught up in how long a day is, both science and religion match.

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Oct 6th, 2017 03:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The new Dan Brown book "Origins" seems to be just about this.

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Oct 6th, 2017 04:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mutations that favor an organism's prolonged existence (and reproduction) tend to become part of the genome.

Mutations that are detrimental to life (and reproduction) are naturally selected out of the genome.

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Oct 6th, 2017 09:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well looks like in a year we can ask the Aliens ourselves.

Man from future here to warn of invasion

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Oct 7th, 2017 06:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dang, you'd think they would be a bit more accurated with their time portal.

If they have iime machines in 2048 the alien invasion at least didn't wipe us out.

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Oct 7th, 2017 07:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

vomer, you have a lot of "ifs" in your explanation...sort of like the Alien Archeology guy.
Haha!

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Oct 7th, 2017 07:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tough crowd :o)

We truly are made of star dust. The earth's gravity collects an estimated 20,000 to 60,000 tons of space dust every year. This dust contains many different elements that make their way into the earth's biosystem.

Even more fascinating is the certainty that each one of us has water molecules in our body that were once a component of dinosaur weewee.

In the grand scheme of things, the earth is a very small spaceship.

Here's one article on space dust.

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Oct 7th, 2017 10:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"vomer, you have a lot of "ifs" in your explanation...sort of like the Alien Archeology guy."

Har, you got me there... But all those 'ifs' are kind of the point of evolution... it's a numbers game, according to the standard model. For every bug that evolved the fake don't-eat-me scary eyes on its abdomen, there was another who evolved a neon sign that said, 'I'm tasty!' but we don't see those around.

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