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Clawhammer Rules!
Sep 26th, 2017 04:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I grew up in a non-gun household and had never fired anything other than a BB gun until college days. I bought a revolver and began learning to shoot after my son was born. That natural yet semi-crazy overprotective "nobody is going to hurt my baby" feeling led to the realization that I was woefully inadequate to protect my wife and child from much of any threat. Things progressed from there.


Forgive your enemies

but never forget their names
Sep 26th, 2017 04:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I received a Daisy BB gun when I was around 9 or 10 years old, and after discovering that the poor birds and animals I shot were dead I realized hat it wasn't a very pleasurable device to own.

After my time with an M-16 in Vietnam I knew I'd never own a firearm once I saw what that weapon did to a human being.

Today I have no desire to own a firearm.

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So. Cal. USA

Sep 26th, 2017 05:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had no BB guns or cartridge weapons as a kid but was introduced to guns while in the Boy Scouts. My mom was not gun friendly. Dad didn't hunt as he had vision in only one eye. We had a friend of the troop who was a collector and he would invite the Troop to a private range twice a year for a "shoot out". Always well organized, gun safety was taught and you had to demonstrate proper handling and safety of each weapon before you were allowed to the firing line.

In high school I bought a 22 that I kept at a friends house and the rest is history.

I've only had to pull out a gun once in my self- defense and if I hadn't had my revolver on me I'd most likely be dead (or worse). I didn't have to fire it but the racist group attacking me did in fact bring knives to a gun fight so they split quickly when I drew down.

As to what I have and how many that is between me, my maker and the state of California and sometime not even the state.

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Staten Island, NY

Godzilla the Thread Killa
Sep 26th, 2017 05:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“Boy Scout camp is where I first learned. .22 single shot Remington rifles as I recall. I'm not shooting much these days but it could be a getting older thing.”

Not a gun owner or collector, but I too first shot at Scout Camp. They had a range where the paper targets were held between two ropes using four wooden clothespins. One of the main instructions was, DON’T SHOOT THE CLOTHESPINS!!

One of our main activities was seeing how many clothespins we could “accidentally” shoot before being asked to leave.

Older scouts (14+?) who proved they could handle the .22 were permitted to try shooting trap with some sort of shotgun. I think I was only in Scout camp at the appropriate age once, but I didn’t try it.

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Northeast IL

Not very bright but does lack ambition
Sep 26th, 2017 06:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a pump Daisy rifle as a kid in the late 60s but started shooting for real in high school. The year before I arrived there as a sophomore they killed off the shooting team, but the coaches continued on an unofficial basis complete with competitions between teams. I started by shooting rimfire bullseye but did well and moved on to a 1911 halfway through the first year. My last two years I shot high power rifle, too - that was a summer thing.

I wasn’t a popular kid and sucked at team sports, and I had found something that I really excelled in with shooting. I’ve stuck with it all these years.

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Las Vegas NV

Can't complain but sometimes I still do
Sep 26th, 2017 06:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had my first BB gun at a very, very young age. Small town in Utah this was a ordinary thing.

We had a cheap .22 rifle and a cheap shotgun as well that I shot when I could go out with adults.

As I got a tad older, still very young, I could take the .22 and walk across the street in front of our house, through my Uncle's field, climb over the fence to the other side and be faced with never ending sage brush and jack rabbits.

As I got older and of age to actually get a license and hunt game I did some of that. I really enjoyed being out on the hunt and seeing the great out doors and the challenge of finding whatever we were hunting. What I also quickly figured out is that I did not get any real satisfaction in killing things. In the end I sold off my hunting rifles and shotgun.

I've never had much thought of firearms as a "thing" of interest. Never any desire to own a great many or to collect in any way.

My interest in firearms was rekindled when I discovered Front Sight. The interest though was not in the firearms themselves, but in what some call, *The comfort of skill at arms* ... the ability to use them effectively.

I took my first course at Front Sight back in about 2000. That was an UZI Sub-machine Gun course where Queenie overcame her fear and paranoia about guns. She had never even touched a firearm before ... so this was the first gun she ever walked up to, touched, picked up, handled, manipulated, loaded and shot. It was a life changing day for Queenie.

I had my concealed carry permit since the early 90s when I was working in retail management. With those middle of the night calls from the alarm company I felt better being able to bring a firearm with me. Not that I figured I'd be clearing the building, just the fact that you have no way to know what you will find as you show up in the parking lot.

After taking three *4 Day Defensive Handgun Courses* at Front Sight over the next several years, I came to a serious conclusion. That conclusion was ... I was legally carrying a gun and by now I had finally figured out that I did not know 10% of what I should know to be carrying it.

In the fall of 2011 I made a commitment to learn what I needed to know and began taking a course every month (to the best of my scheduling ability) in order to gain the knowledge and especially the skill necessary for me to feel competent to have that gun on me.

IMO there are many people out there carrying guns with the idea that they have their card in their wallet and their gun on their hip and they are good to go. The problem is that without real training they simply don't know what they don't know. I am aware of this because I was one of them.

Anyway, I've spent the past six years fixing that. I can add that I have experienced a certain amount of success.

Since I seem to be in this typing frenzy here I'll also add this for those confused about how I talk about shooting. Over the years I have posted here on the FDP about my adventures in Defensive Handgun Training at Front Sight. Some times met with interest and more often than not met with a considerable amount of negativity and chagrin.

One bone of contention seems to be that I never refer to what I do as "Fun". Fun seems to be the theme of shooting and time spent at the range among FDPers (for them) and that's fine with me.

In my case though, I have spent the past six years trying to develop a skill where if it were to ever be put to use on the streets people would be shot and if shot would likely die ... that includes me, myself.

As I do my training that reality never escapes me and with that sense of things I will never call what I do "Fun".

Virtually every student at Front Sight would call it the most fun they have ever had shooting and they would quickly express that to anyone.

My sense of it is just me and what goes on in my own head.

So there you go and now (if you are one of the confused) you know.

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 08:43 PM, Sep 26th, 2017)

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State of Jefferson

Sep 26th, 2017 06:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Scout Camp..1956
Camp Fleischman (sp) near Chester Calif..
We drove all the way from Winnemucca Nevada.
Single shot bolt action .22.
Later (1957) we moved to Pacific Grove, Calif.
Scout camp Pico Blanco in Big Sur area.
Single shot bolt action .22.

Now: Ruger M77/.22, Remington pump, Winchester pump.. Just sold my 1961 Belgian Browning over/under 12 Gauge.
Woodsman .22 bull barrel target match, Ruger single six convertible (.22 mag) .

Looking for "quality" .22 lever action rifle.

I don't hunt or "sport" shoot animals or birds.

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It's A Dry Heat
Sep 26th, 2017 06:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought my first firearm, a H&R bolt-action 12ga. shotgun at 17 and started hunting at that time. I bought my first rifle, a Marlin semi-auto .22cal at 18 for target shooting.

Didn't own a handgun until my late 20's and it was a puny .25cal semi.

I have several of each nowadays, but don't hunt anymore. I don't go target shooting much, only once or twice a year. Seems like I always have a somewhat higher priority task to do besides going shooting. I need to rearrange some of those so-called priorities. :)

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Sunken Heights

North Carolina
Sep 26th, 2017 07:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had little to no interest in firearms until I was a few years into my Army career. Beer and chasing skirts were my true interest at the time.

It changed while in Germany. The Red Army Faction (RAF), a spin-off of the Bader-Meinhof gang in Europe was very active on my first tour there. They offed a few service people every so often and were ruthless and quite effective. They kidnapped and murdered a Army Colonel in Italy. An RAF chick seduced a GI in a bar, stole his ID, murdered him, and the RAF used that to sneak a car bomb onto Rhein-Mein Air Force base and blow it up in the PX parking lot, killing some Americans.

These people were no joke. I was assigned t a Homing All the Way Killer (HAWK) Missile Battery. They snuck into a HAWK Anti-Aircraft Missile Battery elsewhere in the Brigade and blew up some radars. My missile site was not hit. Luckily, the missiles were in the bunkers for deep maintenance or they'd have goner up in big boom.

In response, all the HAWK Batteries in Germany went on round the clock guard duty, in addition to our regular duties. The weird thing was, ****they gave us no bullets, just empty M-16s*****... It was ridiculous and really scary to go on patrol in the dead of night with no rounds. My missile site was in a very remote part of the Oberpfalz region, deep in a forest and the helpless feeling, isolation, and general stupidity was deeply felt.

Within a few days someone with some sense prevailed and we got issued real rounds for guard duty. I instantly really liked the feeling and felt power surge through me. My fellow troops and I no longer felt nervous about encountering the RAF and we hoped to find them sneaking around. They needed to be nervous about me. After that, I've stayed armed and never looked back.

(This message was last edited by WireDog at 09:15 PM, Sep 26th, 2017)

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West of Boston

Just workin' part time.
Sep 26th, 2017 08:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My Dad taught me to shoot at age 7 with a 22 rifle. Didn't shoot much until my late teens with a 30-06 army rifle. Then have not really shot at all until recently with c02 pellet pistols. It's tough in Mass. The gun laws suck.


Back of Beyond SW FL

Sep 26th, 2017 08:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Started shooting BB guns at 7 or 8. Had full use of Dad's guns at age 9 or 10.

Why? Because I grew up in WV. LOL My maternal grandma was a city girl from Alexandria, VA who used to express that in WV men come out of the womb with a rifle in their hands. I'm certain she was referring to Grandpa and his brothers and friends.

My friends and I could shoot dragonflies out of the air with our BB guns. You were considered a bad shot if you couldn't.

I used to hunt when I lived in WV, but haven't in the 28 years I've lived in FL. I have the skills but not the desire even though I still buy a license annually.

I have shot recreationally and competitively, but not much lately. I used to shoot in IDPA and a bullseye league and wasn't bad at either.

tom l
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Chuck Finley is forever.
Sep 27th, 2017 06:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I didn't start shooting until I was old enough to buy my own handgun. The first gun I got was a crappy Raven .25 that came as part of a range membership. The first 'real' gun I bought was a stainless S&W Model 66. I went through a couple of others, but when I got married and we were contemplating having kids I sold them, mostly as a concession to my wife.

It wasn't until about 10 years ago that I got back into shooting and got my license to carry. Since then I've had a number of different pistols, but never more than a couple at a time. I usually sell them or trade in when I want something new.

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Orlando, FL

My brain hurts!
Sep 27th, 2017 08:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just started in 2012 at age 41.

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NW Pennsylvania

Sep 27th, 2017 08:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dad was a hunter, so there were guns in the house growing up. Our scoutmaster had a Savage Anschutz target rifle that was my introduction to a "good" trigger.

Joined the USAF, ended up expert marksman with the silver star. Had an instructor offer to nominate me for sniper school.

Started buying guns in the early 90's and haven't stopped yet.

Shot Skeet, Trap, IDPA, and a little Bullseye. Still get out to the range once or twice a week.

Rick Knight
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St Peters, MO USA

Standing in the back, by the drummer.
Sep 27th, 2017 08:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My Dad started letting me shoot tin cans with his .22 when I was about 6 or 7, but doled out the bullets one at a time for a while. He wasn't a big gun guy but in the time and place I grew up, having a .22 and/or a shotgun in the house was no more remarkable than having garden tools.

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Mass., Amerika

CO2 ... is there anything it can't do?
Sep 27th, 2017 08:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My dad wasn't much of a hunter so I really wasn't exposed to firearms when I was growing up, although I don't remember ever not having a BB or pellet gun. Dad enjoys target shooting, but we were a military family and moved every two or three years so I expect he just didn't see the point of buying guns that he would probably have to get rid of the next time we moved.

Dad got me my first .22 when we moved for a short time to NH, but we moved to Portugal a few months later and I had to leave it behind.

When he retired from the Air Force and we settled back in his hometown in MA, I started to make up for lost time -- I started hunting and bought a few shotguns, a .22, and a Marlin 30-30.

Then I got married and started collecting kids. I was barely hunting anymore and with the combination of the kids getting big enough to get into trouble and the change in MA gun laws in '98, I moved all my stuff up to my father's place. Over time everything was given away or sold.

Then around about 2008 I started thinking it was time to reconsider my gunless ways. I began the long process of getting my carry permit and have been faithfully stimulating the economy of the gun industry ever since.

I'm not a collector, I just buy what I like and keep enough ammo on hand as a hedge against future dumbassery. I've got enough stuff (legally owned and properly stored in accordance with MA law) to make a MA politician's little brain explode.

I go to the range at least once a week and now that I'm not watching football, I will probably stretch that to twice a week.

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North Florida

A Friend of Bill W.
Sep 27th, 2017 09:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Laker's post reminded me of my first BB gun and the lesson that has been with me ever since.

I too killed a bird with it, I felt terrible, I was deeply saddened and I was really young. It was just behind the house so dad had seen what I had done. I thought he was going to be mad at me but for a change he wasn't. He said actions have consequences, never point a gun at something you don't want to kill. He told me my response to the event was appropriate.

I've been out hunting and have practiced the skills of tracking, stealth, control. I've had 8 point bucks in the crosshairs in North Western Pennsylvania, Tennessee, smaller deer in Florida. But never actually took the shot, I figured I love to be out in the woods, I enjoy shooting and if ever I need the meat I have practiced the skills and know I can feed the family but as a sport, killing is not fun. Almost all off this was either blackpowder, bow or crossbow (after partially paralyzing my right arm)

Nuisance pests are a different story, only critters that actually damage my home and property are on that list. Even then I have moments where I think their has to be a better way. The cat takes care of most of the ones that can get into the house.

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State of Jefferson

Sep 27th, 2017 05:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

In Winnemucca I got my first BB Gun a Daisy Pump.

I saw a small sparrow on a telephone wire. I aimed.. and pulled the trigger.
I never thought I would hit it... but, it fell.
And when it did it was shaking and quivering and was in obvious pain. I went back to the spot the following morning and it was dead. I buried it and made a cross out of twigs.

I learned my lesson.

I have never told that story except here on the FDP.

(This message was last edited by jefe46 at 09:52 PM, Sep 27th, 2017)

Indiana Mike
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Victory Mansions

Sep 27th, 2017 06:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

First BB gun at 12, no safety training or anything, "OK, here's a gun, go have fun!" First firearm was a Ruger 10/22 at sixteen. Same deal. Wish my parents had sent me to a safety class first. I fell in with some shooters that schooled me, eventually. Got a few guns now and a place on my property that I can shoot so I'm happy.

Love .22, shoot a lot of that now that I can find it again.

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Orlando, FL

My brain hurts!
Sep 27th, 2017 07:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One thing I will say about shooting as a hobby is that it can get very expensive very quickly. With guitar playing, as long as I keep gigging fairly regularly I can make some money to justify Gear purchases. With firearms, every squeeze of the trigger is money spent!

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