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larryguitar19
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Sep 25th, 2017 10:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am mesmerized by this and absolutely determined to learn it. First I need to confirm the tuning. I've tried Open C and C6 and neither sounds quite right. The opening harmonic is a clue.

Then there is that opening riff which sounds like a 4th fret whatever. I'm kinda familiar with Pagey acoustic open tuning things but this has me stumped.

Anyway there has to be somebody smarter than me that can help me figure this out.

Jimmy Acoustic

(This message was last edited by larryguitar19 at 01:21 PM, Sep 25th, 2017)

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Sep 26th, 2017 07:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds like DADGAG tuning to me.

gdw3

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Sep 28th, 2017 11:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Definitely alternate tuning. You can tell what it is on the opening harmonic.

Te 52

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Sep 29th, 2017 11:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I haven't delved into it, but the opening harmonic at 00:09 is a C major chord, so I would guess some form of open C.

(This message was last edited by Te 52 at 01:29 PM, Sep 29th, 2017)

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Sep 29th, 2017 01:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think you're right, Te. Don't have a guitar with me, but larry might try CGCGCE (low to hi).

gdw3

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Sep 29th, 2017 01:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hard to see his fingers, but what you can see does suggest octaves on the same fret a string apart. That would fit this tuning.

(This message was last edited by gdw3 at 03:39 PM, Sep 29th, 2017)

larryguitar19
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Sep 29th, 2017 06:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yup I concur. It's definitely Open C. The "Friends" movement gives it away. There is a minor chord at the 00:26 mark I"m having trouble with but eventually I will get it.

There are critics claiming JP is sloppy. I totally disagree. I think it's powerful.

Achase4u

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Sep 29th, 2017 08:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If using the open C tuning, try a bar at the 4th fret omitting the high E string. If you need the G in there, use your pinky 4th string 7th fret. Though I am not hearing a G in that chord he's playing. Grain of salt though, as my ability to hear within chords is pretty terrible.

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Dec 4th, 2017 03:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"There are critics claiming JP is sloppy."

They often repeat that because they're comparing his style to the typical modern shredder that is dead-nuts accurate all the time. However, that accuracy and technical facility is often mechanical in nature and lacks real feel and soul.

Imagine how the Stones would've sounded with Joe Satriani instead of Keef. He sounds sloppy too, but try to nail that feel yourself. It is not easy to do, and very few players can authentically pull it off.

There is a place for all kinds of music, and there are all kinds of guitar players.

All the criticism and my-dad-can-beat-up-your-dad posturing among guitar music consumers is pretty childish.

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Dec 4th, 2017 06:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"They often repeat that because they're comparing his style to the typical modern shredder that is dead-nuts accurate all the time. However, that accuracy and technical facility is often mechanical in nature and lacks real feel and soul.

Imagine how the Stones would've sounded with Joe Satriani instead of Keef. He sounds sloppy too, but try to nail that feel yourself. It is not easy to do, and very few players can authentically pull it off.

There is a place for all kinds of music, and there are all kinds of guitar players.

All the criticism and my-dad-can-beat-up-your-dad posturing among guitar music consumers is pretty childish"

Exactly. It belongs between classical pianists.

This is the attitude of thing to hard for perfection. If that's the goal, then let's just let machines play for us. Just compose with a computer. Nah I need some reality with my music.

(This message was last edited by Achase4u at 12:35 AM, Dec 5th, 2017)

larryguitar19
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Dec 4th, 2017 10:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes I think far too many people are obsessed with the technical aspect of playing music.

The only question that needs to be asked is "Does it move you?" That piece I referenced moves me.

Music is art. It's all about conveying a feeling. It's not a competitive sport.

(This message was last edited by larryguitar19 at 12:46 AM, Dec 5th, 2017)

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