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rockstar_not

USA

Thank God for guitars!
Sep 18th, 2017 09:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

In which I evaluate a recently acquired Hercules GS415B against the Ultimate GS-200 stand I've had for a few years, using instruments sized from a concert uke to a 5 string Ibanez SR series bass.

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Battle of the Stands

Dolemite

What It Was!

Fairly Unbalanced
Sep 19th, 2017 07:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Hercules triple for the Beatleband, worked great for a long time. After 3 years of regular gigging, the yolk/clutch thingies are getting a bit spastic.. tried a tiny bit of WD-40, no luck. Might have to dissect them to figure it out.

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Sep 19th, 2017 07:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, rockstar_not, for the thoughtful review. When my birthday comes around again, I'll drop a hint about the Hercules.

You have a nice website, too :D

gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

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Sep 19th, 2017 02:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I also have a Hercules triple, and have been very happy with it. Holds 1 guitar as steadily as 3. Very solid.

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Wichita, KS USA

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Sep 19th, 2017 05:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a half dozen of the Hercules stand. I bought them one at a time when on sale over the past 6-7 years. I got "bonus" maintenance stands with 3 of them. Great for changing strings, etc. I am totally sold on the Hercules as one of the best stands available. No problems with nitro finish either.

reverendrob
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our time in hell
Sep 19th, 2017 05:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I ended up with one of the Ultimate stands (but without the lower body support pegs) for oddball shaped guitars.

It works admirably with my asymmetrical Schecter V.

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Deus

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Sep 19th, 2017 05:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I own both, and the winner for me is the Ultimate...not the model you have there though.

The Ultimate GS1000 model has no flip-down arms on the bottom of the stand. They actually make the stand unstable and allow the instrument to move around on the stand.

With no support arms, the entire weight of the guitar is supported by the steel yoke at the headstock. It's great for the Flying V.

When set up properly (with the instrument's bottom strap button is no greater than about 2" from the floor), the Ultimate is a lot more stable than the Hercules. I have the older version without the auto-yoke (pic below).

I remove the little rubber-band 'safety strap' because it's really useless. I've never had a guitar fall off one of these and I've been using 'em for more than 10 years.

I also had one of the Herc stands come apart (the moving parts of the yoke), and I don't abuse my gear.

Generation 1 Ultimate GS1000 yoke

rockstar_not

USA

Thank God for guitars!
Sep 19th, 2017 05:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Agreed that the Ultimate GS-200 is pretty much useless. I thought I could use it like the GS-100 model when I bought it but I was wrong.

reverendrob
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Sep 19th, 2017 08:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, I got a GS-100 when I got mine.

The fancy yoke didn't appeal, I just needed *a* stand that functioned and I've used similar in the past for Explorer-type things so knew what I was getting into

jazzguy

Philly, B-3 Capital

don't dream it be it
Sep 19th, 2017 10:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Been using the Hercules the last couple yrs. I usually buy them when they pop on Craigslist, can usually get them for $20 or so.
So now, after giving a few as gifts I have around 5 left, if one breaks, I'm covered.

Just sold my last old chrome On Stage stand. Old fashioned and dangerous yes, but never had one break ;^)

jazzguy

Philly, B-3 Capital

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Sep 19th, 2017 10:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The GS1000 looks like it's designed for solid bodies or thinlines.
Since I only use full size archtops they wouldn't work for me.

MLC

It's not just good..

...it's good enough.
Sep 20th, 2017 06:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got one of the Ultimate GS200's and I find it works great for my Republic "Clarksdale" resonator.
It didn't work well at all for my electrics, but it's perfect for the Republic.

I've got a couple of the Hercules singles. One is great, but the other is a bit older and they were using that crappy rubber coating on the some of the parts and it's broken down and gotten very tacky/sticky.
That one just stays home now. I'll probably replace it at some point with an Ultimate GS100 or GS1000.

The Hercules does work really well for my other acoustic guitars.

(This message was last edited by MLC at 08:55 AM, Sep 22nd, 2017)

Bubbalou

USA

THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Sep 20th, 2017 07:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use very similar stands and love them. Only have 2 and would like 2 more

jay1vinton

Hawaii, USA

Perfect is the enemy of good enough
Sep 21st, 2017 05:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have the self locking Hercules. I only have one, the rest are traditional cradle and yolk style cheepies.

I like the herc, but the ocd / obsessive side of me hates hanging a strat in one. The little lock pieces don't hang straight due to the different angles of rest on the headstock.. drives me nuts. ;-)

Maybe it's just me, but I like hanging them as high as I can get before they become unstable.

(This message was last edited by jay1vinton at 07:22 PM, Sep 21st, 2017)

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Sep 21st, 2017 07:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I really like the GS-100 I've been using for a few years now. I use two at every gig. Works well with my stats, Les Paul's, Gresch, and every other electric I've tried. Solid!

Ultimate GS-100

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Deus

ex Machina
Sep 21st, 2017 07:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There is an oddly large number of guitar players that think hanging a guitar by the headstock can damage the guitar over time by putting unnecessary stress on the wood.

That is a goofy way of thinking when you consider a set of 10-gauge strings puts a bit more than 100 lbs of pull on the headstock of the guitar.

If anything, hanging a guitar by the headstock helps relieve some of that tension.

Dolemite

What It Was!

Fairly Unbalanced
Sep 25th, 2017 08:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

PSA: Called the Hercules folks, the uneven yolks that hold the headstock can be adjusted with a firm grip if they get bent out of place over time.. you pop 'em back into place. Mine are right as rain now.

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Sep 25th, 2017 08:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got a half dozen Herc stands and none of then exhibit the "gooey rubber coating" noted by some. Must be a "lot" of stands or maybe even several "lots" of stands with non-conforming coating? At any rate, I've been buying them since about 2002-2003 up to about 2015 and I haven't had any issues at all. I probably won't be buying any more stands of any brand because I don't need them.

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