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Hammond101
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Sep 14th, 2017 11:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not to brag, quite the contrary. I make only a modest income in my day job. I finance my instruments with gig money and instrument/amp repair.

While I haven't spent Collings money for a guitar, I have a couple of Taylors that street price for nearly 3.5K. One was purchased new (2007), the other used (a 2011 model). Not custom stuff but nice none the less.

I don't for a minute regret the dollars spent on these instruments. They better themselves with age and if they had to be sold would get a better resale percentage of purchase price than inexpensive models.....I hope!

reverendrob
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Sep 14th, 2017 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I should note that I still manage one nice instrument every year or so...and I'm on disability (and not a huge check, either).

It's all about priorities.

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Sep 14th, 2017 12:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know I've told this story before, but...

A few years ago I went up to Wildwood (neat place, great folks, very helpful and generous); it's about 5-1/2 hours from here. I brought my #1 Strat with me and my Allen Brown Sugar amp. They let me hang in a back room and brought me various Custom Shop Strats in the $3K to $4K range. I think I played close to a dozen guitars that day over a period of a few hours. They never bothered me and just let me have at it. While most of the guitars were really good guitars--made well, played well and sounded very good--none of them sounded (or even played--granted that's a setup issue), as well as my #1. As I've said many times on this forum, I've never owned or played a Strat as good as my #1 (not sure why it's such a good guitar), including having owned some Custom Shop stuff, and vintage stuff, too.

So I walked out of Wildwood that day with my #1 and my Brown Sugar. When I got home, I figured I'd just build me another Strat that I hoped would be a winner. I did that, and it came out great. As good as that Fender/Warmoth/Fralin Strat is, it also doesn't compare to my #1 (a basic American Standard Strat from late 1998, with Fralin pups, and a slightly chunkier neck from the factory). But that guitar just plays music that I can't believe (I'm not that good a player). When we play live, that thing is just all there. Just a great axe.

I'm not convinced that price alone determines how good an instrument is. Though in the acoustic world I think there is a bit more relevance to price.

Whatever floats your boat. But it is fun to look at that stuff...

(This message was last edited by stratcowboy at 02:53 PM, Sep 14th, 2017)

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It's all gravy from here on...
Sep 14th, 2017 01:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My $3600 guitar was a Martin acoustic.

firebird6024

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Plausible Deniability Is all I need
Sep 14th, 2017 04:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have played guitar since I was 6 and been fortunate in life. I play guitar everyday and so does my wife. Together we have over 40 guitars in our house. I am an avid collector, I gig and play as often as I can. Even my most expensive instruments get used at gigs, no trailer queens.

Life is short and I try to enjoy it.


urbtone

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Jim O.
Sep 15th, 2017 04:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Check out one of those acoustic guitar forums where the big boys hang out - $xx,xxx price tags are NOT deterrents for those guys. They'll pay whatever the flavor-of-the-month luthier says they should pay. And don't get me wrong: those guitars are beautiful, without any doubt. But for that kind of cash, they should be.

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What?
Sep 15th, 2017 05:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have many interests, limited income and limited talent. I don't play often enough, well enough to justify (for myself) a high end guitar. I believe plenty of less than high end guitars can get you 80% + of the way there.

I don't have a problem with guitars costing a lot or looking at them.



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Sep 15th, 2017 08:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I understand spending more than a few thousand dollars on a guitar for non-amplified use in a concert hall, either solo or with an orchestra/string group.

You pay for a master luthier to select master/aaa grade tone woods (which are very expensive) and then spend a hundred or so hours hand carving the top to provide maximum projection. An instrument like this will sound *a little* better than another instrument in a small room but if you take it to a concert hall with good acoustics, the well built guitar will be far superior in projection, volume, tone quality, and balance, which in a relatively intimate instrument like the guitar, is vital to providing the audience with a good performance.

Once you start talking about paying more than $2k for a guitar then running it through electronics for amplification, it starts to make less sense imo..

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Sep 15th, 2017 12:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sort of tangentially related, whenever I go into a store that sells used guitars and look at the prices - even those that are considered fair - I'm forever puzzled because in order for the store to own that instrument and sell for a profit they had to have paid something 25-50% less than what's on the price tag. Shoot, in most cases I'd have gladly given the person more than the store paid them and still gotten a pretty good deal for myself. So how does one get to be on the buying side of those deals?

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GospelBilly!
Sep 15th, 2017 01:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If I'd blown tons on money on vintage and high end guitars and amps during my 30-year legal career (working for private firms and large companies), I probably wouldn't have been able to retire at age 61 this past January.

If anyone is buying $$$$ gear using a credit card and is paying it of slowly with mondo interest added, they are not very intelligent (sorry bros, just being honest!).

To PLAY well, you don't have to PAY well! (:oD

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I detect the El Supremo
Sep 15th, 2017 02:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My most expensive guitar is a 2007 LP R8 that I paid $3,045 for. It's more than I probably should have spent but I really wanted that guitar and more than meets my expectations. I am very happy with it and that's really what counts.

LP R8

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Sep 15th, 2017 04:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some folks have more than one guitar, some have many. Someone else may rather have only one really nice guitar.

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It's all gravy from here on...
Sep 16th, 2017 04:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If anyone is buying $$$$ gear using a credit card and is paying it of slowly with mondo interest added, they are not very intelligent (sorry bros, just being honest!)."


If you have decent credit, there is no reason ever to pay a penny interest. All the major outlets have cards and promotions for up to 48 months without interest. I buy most of my stuff that way and pay it off way early of course. I could pay cash, but why should I?

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Sep 16th, 2017 06:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nobody needs to justify what they spend on anything. You knows the cost and you pays your bill, and you lives with your decision.

Griping about the high cost of a guitar is like griping about the high cost of a Rolls Royce or a Bentley: it's made of metal and plastic and it burns fuel and gets you to and from work just like a 1980s Chevy Geo. But with the Rolls or Bentley, you are paying for top-quality components, attention to detail and the brand name. That adds cost.

Same for guitars. However, guitars have an added nostalgic value: femous people famously played certain makes and models, and guitar players generally are into hero worship. Guitar companies take advantage of that too because they are in business to make money, and maximizing profits is how a business succeeds.

Nothing wrong with mucho-dinero guitars. If there were no market for them, they wouldn't exist.

5Strats
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GospelBilly!
Sep 16th, 2017 06:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

jhawkr - That makes sense, considering you pay no interest if you make timely payments.

littleuch
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Sep 16th, 2017 07:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep, it's all relative. For some a high end guitar isn't any more extravagant than a cheapie for the rest of us.

Personally I'd never spend more than $2k for a bolt on, and that would be high end parts and paint.

If I had the funds I could see spending more for an acoustic, a R8 and a 335. Same goes for amps. I would like one boutique amp like a PR clone, but I reckon I'd sound just the same through a PRRI.






BbendFender
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Sep 16th, 2017 08:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Generally, I don't pay a lot for guitar. I think the most I have ever paid was $750 for a used '78 Tele that I rarely play.

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Sep 16th, 2017 08:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

To acquire the most expensive guitar I have I didn't buy a guitar ... I bought parts.

My green *Tele Paul* mentioned in another recent thread ran about $2,400.00.

I ended up with a very nice guitar, plus (by definition) I got exactly what I wanted. But more importantly I got the enjoyment and satisfaction of constructing it myself.

Granted this thread is more about buying high dollar instruments off the rack, but that's certainly not the only way to spend substantial $$$ on a guitar. ;)

Sadly, I'm afraid that if I were to ever try to sell *Tele Paul* responses would likely be, "It's a WHAT? ... How can that be worth anything?"

So goes life. :)

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Sep 16th, 2017 10:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Jeff Beck famously played a "Tele-Gib" assembled for him by Seymour Duncan (IIRC). Beck's guitar had a cut-off Tele bridge to allow room for the PAF pickup and ring.

Seymour's modern version uses a TOM-style bridge and a stop tailpiece.

This beast

walshb
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12,423 Mustangs passed and counting
Sep 16th, 2017 11:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got 2 high end guitars, my R8 that was just under 3 grand, and a Martin D-42 that was right around 4 grand. I don't regret either purchase, but I also didn't pay interest or have to give up other things in order to purchase them. I've been fortunate to make a decent living, and also have an expense account that just keeps growing, despite all the $$$ I've spent on equipment over the years. Judging others based upon your experiences or lifestyle just doesn't make sense, IMO.

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