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bongo122819

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All I need is one more guitar
Sep 14th, 2017 08:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I check the "porn" on Wildwoodguitars.com every day and shake my head at the prices; 4, 5 , 6, 7 K$ for some guitars!
I've never known anyone who would, or could, pay that kind of money.
Who buys these expensive axes?
Who plays these expensive axes?
No insult intended for those who do pay - just curious.
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Hammond101
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Sep 14th, 2017 09:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A good friend of mine does quite well. He owns a distribution company. His taste in acoustic guitars is at a $$ level some of us pay for a good used car, numbers you mention above. More power to him.

Chris-K

MD, USA

Sep 14th, 2017 09:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Guitars are not very expensive. My 2nd son plays the violin, and I managed to buy him a decent one that cost only $35k.

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GospelBilly!
Sep 14th, 2017 09:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've never spent more than $2,000 for a guitar and I don't get who buys this ultra high end stuff either.

While I have some really nice guitars, I appreciate excellent playing and sounding import guitars too. I scored an Ibanez AF95 jazz archtop used for $375 this week. My slide guitar is an Agile LP that I bought used for $185.

NOTE - I've played on the original music circuit enough to know that virtually "NOBODY" out there fighting to make it in music plays high end guitars and amps (or vintage for that matter).

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GospelBilly!
Sep 14th, 2017 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A good pianist friend plays a Bösendorfer. Now THOSE are expensive!

rfrakes331K
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RonHalen Jokingly He Says
Sep 14th, 2017 09:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Like those $20K bicycles? Who can afford them? Attorneys, maybe Doctors!

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Sep 14th, 2017 10:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My Collings OM1A acoustic cost almost six grand, including tax and with a K&K installed. I've owned many acoustics over the years from a $200 Yamaha on up. After four years do I feel six grand was a bit much. Absolutely not. Some--not all-instruments are worth the steep price.

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Sep 14th, 2017 11:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I've never known anyone who would, or could, pay that kind of money.
Who buys these expensive axes?
Who plays these expensive axes?"

Below is a link to a list of artists who play Collings guitars. And Collings does NOT do endorsement deals. Each artist has to pay out of pocket--no more than 10% off retail new-the same as everyone else.

Artists who play Collings guitars

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El Californio

Sep 14th, 2017 11:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My philosopy is: Unless you are making money with it, you don't need a guitar worth more than $1500*.

(*used to be $1000 -- revised for inflation.)

(This message was last edited by archiestone at 03:02 PM, Sep 14th, 2017)

reverendrob
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We all want

our time in hell
Sep 14th, 2017 11:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's a matter of priorities.

If you want it that bad, you make it happen.

I have guns that I shouldn't have been able to pull of in my income bracket - because I didn't drive a new car, I didn't live somewhere fancy, etc. I was able to spend a month on something I wanted that was the new car payment/cell phone bill/cable bill/etc, and that ADDS up fast.

I can't justify spending that kind of cash on a guitar, but I'm like Mr. Strats here - most I've ever spent is $2k, and well, that was relatively recently for a specific niche item that had EVERYTHING I wanted from the factory.

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It's all gravy from here on...
Sep 14th, 2017 11:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The most I've ever spent on a guitar was $3600. It's all relative. I don't live in a house with 1000+ sq ft per person. We all pretty much have finite resources. You pick & choose based on ability but also based on want or perceived "need". There have been many FDP'rs who have bought Wildwood guitars. Not me though, too expensive!

Hammond101
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Sep 14th, 2017 11:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not to brag, quite the contrary. I make only a modest income in my day job. I finance my instruments with gig money and instrument/amp repair.

While I haven't spent Collings money for a guitar, I have a couple of Taylors that street price for nearly 3.5K. One was purchased new (2007), the other used (a 2011 model). Not custom stuff but nice none the less.

I don't for a minute regret the dollars spent on these instruments. They better themselves with age and if they had to be sold would get a better resale percentage of purchase price than inexpensive models.....I hope!

reverendrob
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We all want

our time in hell
Sep 14th, 2017 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I should note that I still manage one nice instrument every year or so...and I'm on disability (and not a huge check, either).

It's all about priorities.

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Sep 14th, 2017 12:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know I've told this story before, but...

A few years ago I went up to Wildwood (neat place, great folks, very helpful and generous); it's about 5-1/2 hours from here. I brought my #1 Strat with me and my Allen Brown Sugar amp. They let me hang in a back room and brought me various Custom Shop Strats in the $3K to $4K range. I think I played close to a dozen guitars that day over a period of a few hours. They never bothered me and just let me have at it. While most of the guitars were really good guitars--made well, played well and sounded very good--none of them sounded (or even played--granted that's a setup issue), as well as my #1. As I've said many times on this forum, I've never owned or played a Strat as good as my #1 (not sure why it's such a good guitar), including having owned some Custom Shop stuff, and vintage stuff, too.

So I walked out of Wildwood that day with my #1 and my Brown Sugar. When I got home, I figured I'd just build me another Strat that I hoped would be a winner. I did that, and it came out great. As good as that Fender/Warmoth/Fralin Strat is, it also doesn't compare to my #1 (a basic American Standard Strat from late 1998, with Fralin pups, and a slightly chunkier neck from the factory). But that guitar just plays music that I can't believe (I'm not that good a player). When we play live, that thing is just all there. Just a great axe.

I'm not convinced that price alone determines how good an instrument is. Though in the acoustic world I think there is a bit more relevance to price.

Whatever floats your boat. But it is fun to look at that stuff...

(This message was last edited by stratcowboy at 02:53 PM, Sep 14th, 2017)

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It's all gravy from here on...
Sep 14th, 2017 01:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My $3600 guitar was a Martin acoustic.

firebird6024

Mukilteo

Plausible Deniability Is all I need
Sep 14th, 2017 04:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have played guitar since I was 6 and been fortunate in life. I play guitar everyday and so does my wife. Together we have over 40 guitars in our house. I am an avid collector, I gig and play as often as I can. Even my most expensive instruments get used at gigs, no trailer queens.

Life is short and I try to enjoy it.


urbtone

USA/Massachusetts

Jim O.
Sep 15th, 2017 04:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Check out one of those acoustic guitar forums where the big boys hang out - $xx,xxx price tags are NOT deterrents for those guys. They'll pay whatever the flavor-of-the-month luthier says they should pay. And don't get me wrong: those guitars are beautiful, without any doubt. But for that kind of cash, they should be.

Grey Goose
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What?
Sep 15th, 2017 05:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have many interests, limited income and limited talent. I don't play often enough, well enough to justify (for myself) a high end guitar. I believe plenty of less than high end guitars can get you 80% + of the way there.

I don't have a problem with guitars costing a lot or looking at them.



FlyonNylon
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Sep 15th, 2017 08:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I understand spending more than a few thousand dollars on a guitar for non-amplified use in a concert hall, either solo or with an orchestra/string group.

You pay for a master luthier to select master/aaa grade tone woods (which are very expensive) and then spend a hundred or so hours hand carving the top to provide maximum projection. An instrument like this will sound *a little* better than another instrument in a small room but if you take it to a concert hall with good acoustics, the well built guitar will be far superior in projection, volume, tone quality, and balance, which in a relatively intimate instrument like the guitar, is vital to providing the audience with a good performance.

Once you start talking about paying more than $2k for a guitar then running it through electronics for amplification, it starts to make less sense imo..

Itchy
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My brain hurts!
Sep 15th, 2017 12:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sort of tangentially related, whenever I go into a store that sells used guitars and look at the prices - even those that are considered fair - I'm forever puzzled because in order for the store to own that instrument and sell for a profit they had to have paid something 25-50% less than what's on the price tag. Shoot, in most cases I'd have gladly given the person more than the store paid them and still gotten a pretty good deal for myself. So how does one get to be on the buying side of those deals?

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