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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / Mustang Bridge on a Bigby Tele

69tele

Rock Of Gibraltar

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Sep 5th, 2017 02:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi guys installing a stock mustang bridge on a Fender Japan Telecaster, and having a bit of trouble.

When the string comes up from the under the roller bar from the bigsby and hits the bridge the saddle is low to catch the string and in sits on the bridge chassis... any ideas ? or maybe this mod is only for the jag/jm with a shallower break angle ?

thanks !

(This message was last edited by 69tele at 04:54 AM, Sep 5th, 2017)

MLC

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...it's good enough.
Sep 5th, 2017 06:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you haven't already, crank the bridge base down as far as it will go and raise the saddle.

If the string still doesn't clear, then you probably need to shim the neck to give yourself more break angle. Most Tele's that have that style of bridge with a Bigsby have the neck shimmed for that reason.

RicOkc

Nicoma Park, OK.

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Sep 6th, 2017 12:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a MIJ Tele with a Bigsby and added a Mustang bridge on it.

The neck is shimmed and the strings still scrape the backside of the bridge. I figured it's just the nature of the beast and let it be. It's working just fine as it is.

The saddles of that style of bridge aren't adjustable just the height of the bridge itself.

MLC

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Sep 7th, 2017 06:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The saddles of that style of bridge aren't adjustable just the height of the bridge itself."

OK, I wasn't aware of that. That does make it tougher.
I've never messed around with the Mustang bridge. I've got a Jazzmaster, so I understand that one - and that does have the saddle height adjustment.

FWIW - I put a Mastery bridge on my Jazzmaster and that has saddle height adjustment, as well. They also designed their bridge "walls" to be lower so there's much less concern about strings contacting anything but the saddles.

RicOkc

Nicoma Park, OK.

"Let the music do the talking"
Sep 8th, 2017 03:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I considered buying a Mastery bridge, but the cost of one is questionable.

69tele

Rock Of Gibraltar

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Sep 8th, 2017 04:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the info guys...I may need to look into shimming the neck or finding a better bridge as suggested.

the mastery bridge looks amazing but very ££££$$$$ expensive.

I also note the is a mustang bridge designed for the kurt cobain mustang with height adjusters...maybe that will work.

Link

MLC

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Sep 8th, 2017 08:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, I bought my Mastery when they were still pretty new to the market. It was still expensive, but like most things, they've gone up since.

But I will say, I don't regret spending the money.
I made my already pretty great Jazzmaster even better.

That Cobain Mustang bridge does look pretty nice.

RicOkc

Nicoma Park, OK.

"Let the music do the talking"
Sep 9th, 2017 12:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you get one let us know how it works out.

RicOkc

Nicoma Park, OK.

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Sep 19th, 2017 11:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I ordered one of these the other day, inexpensive and the saddles are adjustable.

Tele bridge

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Sep 19th, 2017 05:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A rocking bridge is ideal for a Tele with a Bigsby, and a Sorkin "Bowtie" unit with the saddle bar designed for a plain G string (link below, from sponsor AES above), is a really really good one.

It intonates very will with string sets using a 009, 010, or 011 high E.

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Sep 19th, 2017 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's a Sorkin Bowtie on a Tele (link below).

Another option is to try stringing the Bigsby over the string retainer bar. If there's enough downward string angle behind the saddles, they'll stay in place on the bridge.

Too shallow an angle and you run the risk of what many Jazzmasters and Jaguars suffer from: strings popping out of the saddles when strummed hard, due to the shallow break-over angle of the strings at the bridge.

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Snohomish WA USA

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Sep 29th, 2017 10:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I recall going through a nightmare many years ago with an MIJ Tele with Bigsby, probably 10 years ago. In the end the Mustang bridge and very specific shimming made the difference. I believe I had a thread here on the project at the time. Still have the guitar!

Prior to the fix I got a nasty sitar sound out of that thing. Trouble was I was not really interested in that tone from a Tele. Sitar+Bigsby=Holey Moley throw that thing in the fire.

By the way, this Tele is really heavy.

69tele

Rock Of Gibraltar

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Oct 11th, 2017 08:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

how was the shimming done ?

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Snohomish WA USA

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Oct 11th, 2017 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My shimming was done by trial and error. Probably 15 errors before it worked properly. I kept changing the thickness and placement until I found the magic recipe. Each effort included fully restringing. Hugely time consuming, although I'm sure someone who actually knew what they were doing would have had it nailed much quicker.

If I could I would share the exact details, but sorry to say that I would have to get back into it and potentially cause some change that would get me back to where I was. It's held for about ten years and no reason to think it won't hold for a long while.

RicOkc

Nicoma Park, OK.

"Let the music do the talking"
Oct 19th, 2017 12:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used a shim from Stew-Mac.

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