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larryguitar19
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Oct 9th, 2017 11:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I tried one out. Honestly I had a hard time dialing in any decent tone. It seems to me the gain channel was awfully fizzy and buzzy for my taste. But admittedly I didn't really crank it either.

Mike DeTorrice
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Oct 10th, 2017 03:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The new update is excellent ! A lot of new features and sounds. It's almost like getting the amp again with the new stuff to play around with.

A Boss rep has indicated that, in order to get the full advantage of the EL-34 tube-like power stage/speaker interaction, one should turn the master up high, set the gain to taste, and then use the channels volume control to get the desired level.

Some people feel that one might need to set the powerful EQ differently than you may normally expect and be used to, in order to get the best sound. In other words, perhaps don't necessarily start with your standard Bass-Middle-Treble-Presence settings but rather use your ears only and see how all these controls can interact with one another as you sweep through various settings.

Mike

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Oct 10th, 2017 08:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I agree with Mike.....the upgrade is easy and the extra presets are handy. The rest of the.upgrades I haven’t tinkered with yet other than to see the menus and see if I hadn’t screwed something up. It even saved the presets I had on the amp.

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Oct 10th, 2017 10:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I can see there's a learning curve (for me anyway) with this thing, but I'm gonna make it work. Played with it some cranked a little in our sanctuary this morning - mostly cleans, and then punching in the pedals on my board. Sounds better the more you turn it up - that didn't used to be true with solid state amps.

I do have a question: I mentioned I bought the GA-FC footswitch. In the amp owner's manual (page 6), it says there should be a couple of stickers for the footswitch to rename the six buttons on the footswitch. I can't find these stickers anywhere - anyone else get these...or not?



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Oct 10th, 2017 07:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Did you look in the amp paperwork? That’s where mine were.

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Oct 10th, 2017 09:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep, I did...but I'll look through the manual again. It wasn't in the bag or in the back of the amp. Everything else is there, including the cardboard cut-out that sits on top of the amp (like Fender has on some models).

And I'll be back at the shop where I bought it next Monday; maybe that stuff fell out in the file cabinet where he pulled the manual from (this was the floor model, not a boxed up one).

I've figured out *most* of the footswitch functions, but I'd still like to have the right names with the right buttons.

I've got the four channels programmed with an initial sound; I'll fine tune them later. But at least now I can switch through them without some gawdawful loud screech blasting out of the amp unexpectedly!

Love the tones though... plenty on tap. I might eventually have to have another one just to keep at home; there should be some used ones available in the near future. Or maybe I bump up to the 212 for use at worship (although I don't need it).

(This message was last edited by reverend mikey at 11:11 PM, Oct 10th, 2017)

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Oct 11th, 2017 05:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Honestly I had a hard time dialing in any decent tone. It seems to me the gain channel was awfully fizzy and buzzy for my taste. But admittedly I didn't really crank it either."

I thought so too... until I played with it a little. I'm a 90% clean player finding happiness mostly on the clean channel with a little BD boost, maybe a little bit on the crunch too w/ lower gain dialed in.
Initially I found the Lead and Brown channels unusable, as you describe: 'fizzy.'
Then I discovered the elegance of the .5 watt setting; Try it out. It tames the fizz and allows you to push the Master up, yielding very authentic Marshallesque tones. Just like a tube amp, it needs to be pushed to give up the sweet tones. The .5 watt setting gives you this w/out the need to rattle the walls.

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Oct 17th, 2017 06:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Okay, so I LOVE the amp, but this is frustrating: as mentioned above, I didn't get the GA-FC footswitch stickers that were supposed to come with the Katana 100 112. Stopped by the dealer on Monday, he gladly opened up the owners manual for a KTN 100 212 he has in stock and gave me the stickers from that one (so now some other poor schmuck won't get his/hers!). They didn't have another KTN 100 112, and they couldn't find my stickers buried in their file somewhere.

I wasn't sure if they looked right... sure enough, I get home and they're different than what I'm supposed to have for the 100 (and I would suspect they should both be the same, right?). Either way, these aren't the right stickers for the 6 buttons on the switch: I saw the correct stickers on a YouTube demo - and it ain't these.

I tried several different websites to find a phone number or e-mail contact to speak to Boss directly, but to no avail... Guess I'll have to contact the dealer again and see if they can get ahold of them and get the right stickers.

I know this sounds lame, but it's a pain when you look at the switch, and it's got the wrong labeling for the Katana amps...I don't want to have to memorize the proper switch operations from the manual.

Anyone else run into this? Anyone else using the GA-FC footswitch with yours?

One other cool thing I learned from a YouTube video (then discovered in the manual - not very well written): You get the four channel presets, but then when you push the 5th button, labeled "Panel" it goes to whatever settings you have set up on the amps knobs - basically giving you a 5th preset!

Nice - now I can have four presents for electric and use the Panel setting for acoustic... all without getting into the online software (yet).

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Oct 17th, 2017 06:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Stop!

I am NOT buying one of these. You can’t make me.

HeavyDuty
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Oct 17th, 2017 08:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rev, if that doesn’t work I can scan and PDF my labels - I haven’t attached them yet.

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Oct 18th, 2017 07:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

HD -

Thanks, but I'll contact the dealer and have them get me the real thing (hah! should be interesting to see how long this will take!).

I'll let you know what I find out - I may get desperate enough to take you up on that...

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Oct 18th, 2017 08:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rev, even if it’s just for the short term.

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Oct 18th, 2017 11:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Problem solved!

I called the store this morning, talked to my salesman; they had just gotten another KTN 100/112 in, so he opened the manual bag and found the stickers; he's mailing them out to me today (and I'm mailing back the ones from the 212, since I don't need 'em).

So in a couple days I'll be good to go. Been watching quite a few YT videos to learn as much as possible about using the GA-FC and also programming the amp through the online link... that will be my next challenge.

I've never wanted to mess with lots of deep tweaking on an amp (especially through a computer), but this thing sounds so good, the price is right, and the WEIGHT is right, I'm going to make the commitment.

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Oct 18th, 2017 11:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For you tinkerers, there is now a farily simple 'low amp power mod' on the Katana 100 Head for those who find it too loud. Here's a post on vguitarforums.com, "Katana Tips & tricks":

"See the red and black wire above on the internal speaker in the Katana Head - this is powered by a 30 watt amp that is under control of the POWER CONTROL Mode switch too.
As many Katana Owners observe, there is a big volume jump between the lower wattage POWER CONTROL modes.
But the internal speaker tap inside Katana Head is powered by a lower wattage power amp that also scales with the three available POWER Modes

MAIN SPEAKER OUT Watts vs_Katana Head INTERNAL SPEAKER Watts
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Power setting: 0.5 watt = 0.15 watt delivered to Internal Speaker
Power setting: 50 watt = 15 watt delivered to Internal Speaker
Power setting: 100 watt = 30 watt delivered to Internal Speaker

Adding a separate Speaker Output Jack from the Internal Speaker power amp yields more possible wattage options.

reverend mikey
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Oct 18th, 2017 04:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's a very cool mod for the head..

I see from doing some more research (good ol' YouTube!) that the Version 2 of the online software at www.bosstonecentral.com now doubles the patches available that can be recalled with the footswitch (on the KTN 50 it goes from 2 to 4 patches, on the KTN 100 from 4 to 8). Along with the panel setting, the KTN 100 now has 9 preset locations - which ought to be plenty for any live use.

What this does for me is allow me to set up three to four patches dedicated to single coils and another three to four dedicated to humbuckers.

I was going to just use the panel settings for my acoustic setting, but after playing around with my Martin D-35 plugged in last night, I wasn't happy with the tones I was getting just on the panel...are there some options in the software to further tweak the eq and other settings for the Acoustic mode?

Sure wish the amp had a notch filter to take care of pesky feedback...maybe in the software?

reverendrob
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Oct 18th, 2017 05:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There should be para EQ and various EQ options in the software.

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Oct 19th, 2017 05:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very tempted by the Katana head. Has anyone tried the DI out to a desk for live use? The manual says it's OK, but seems to show unbalanced jack plugs in the diagram. I guess I'd need a DI box, which is OK, but what does the speaker emulation sound like?

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Oct 19th, 2017 06:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I’ve decided that, if my Vypyr 75 ever dies, one of these will replace it. Probably the head version.

reverendrob
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Oct 19th, 2017 07:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Shouldn't need a DI box unless you're running something weird.

Speaker emulation will be derived from the GT-100 and be quality enough for most recording, let alone live situations.

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Oct 19th, 2017 10:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

In especially the new .v2 firmware upgrade, the Katana has a significantly improved speaker/cabinet simulated out. This affects the Recording/Headphone Out jack, the USB out and the Line Out jack (on the 100 watt).

It adds a section in Tone Studio to adjust the "Line Out Air Feel" on the above outs with settings for "Recording", "Live" or "Blend". These appear to adjust close or room miking techniques.

There is also a new setting for "Cabinet Resonance" with settings for "Vintage", "Modern" and "Deep". These apparently affect both the Rec/Line/USB outputs, as well as the actual live speaker sound from the Katana.

Both these new settings can be used together in various combinations to get a really good sound. The new global EQ setting in .v2 can really tailor the sound, too.

Mike

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