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Mick Reid
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Aug 31st, 2017 07:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I pulled the trigger on a Roland Blues Cube Artist today. I've considering one since a recent post here after discovering they do a 1x12 now. (didn't even bother to look at the 2x12 version when it first came out... too big/heavy)

I got a few hours with it this arvo and really lovin' it. I had given one a good run in the shop a few weeks ago, but got to run my pedals into today and it sounds great.

I contemplated getting the foot controller but think I'll just use one of my other footswitches for clean/dirt switching in conjunction with my pedal board.

I know they're a bit pricey for a SS amp, but I think the BC's are sort of in a class of their own.
I like that it's really "just an amp" rather than 100 amps in one. Simple & straight forward.
Not sure when I'll need the full 80w, but it's good to had the headroom. (15 & 45w are plenty loud so far!)

Already got a custom cover on order for it.


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Aug 31st, 2017 07:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool!

5Strats
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Aug 31st, 2017 08:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice! I really like my Boss Katana 50.

Pinetree
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Aug 31st, 2017 08:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I clicked on your profile to see a pic of it...

















oh wait.

Therealfrogman
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Aug 31st, 2017 10:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That would be a cool amp to have. Congrats!

How much was it?

I bet is was around 952.97 US Dollars

(This message was last edited by Therealfrogman at 06:54 PM, Aug 31st, 2017)

Mick Reid
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Aug 31st, 2017 04:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I clicked on your profile to see a pic of it..."

That was just cruel....

:^(

"How much was it?"

1200AUD

Cal-Woody

USA/California

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Aug 31st, 2017 11:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am very interested in that same amp. Yours can use the tube module and the one I'm interested in is $300!!!
Ritchie Kotzen. I think the Eric Johnson one is the same price, but would want to have more of the 6L6 tone and not the 6V6 sounds.
Regardless of the additional module, are you finding the tone and dynamics to be as advertised? Pick dynamics and strumming characteristics to react as a tube amp does?
So, it also has channel paralleling to blend the clean and distortion modes together? Fender did this on a few amps and found it to tame the distortion characteristics to much, thus making the sound more clean and stout, but never really brought out the details of the distortion channel or gave you a stout blusey edge to your playing style. It sounded like the amp was fighting itself to get one sound or the other to be the dominant effect verses a layered texture. So, I have never experienced the sound it was supposed to produce or I just didn't understand what it was that I was hearing. I'm not sure if it is something I really care about, but was interested in what you think that would sound like.
But in thinking that could be my new gigging amp, would I be far from the thought that this could replace a tubed combo amp or would you suggest staying with a tubed combo amp for my new backup amp? I want it to sound authentic and have the same expectations that I'm used to and at the price point that Roland is asking for this amp, I was hoping that it would not disappoint.
So, if you care to maybe offer your impression on my questions, I would truly be appreciative of your thoughts!
My 'Thanks in advance', for your consideration.
Woody

Mick Reid
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Sep 1st, 2017 03:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Woody-

The standard Blues Cube Artist *is* based on 6L6 tone. The New York Blues Tone Capsule is the 6V6 (Kirk Fletcher). Don't know what the "Stage" 60w model is based on.

Also I think you'll find the Blues Cube Artist is more around the $800US mark so not sure what model you're speaking of. (unless you've found a great deal on a used one!)

Re: the Dual Tone feature, I haven't played much with it yet, but my initial impression is that it is a very usable sound.
I think the amount of gain you have set on the Crunch channel will have the most affect on what the blended tone you'll get.
I'm not a high gain guy so haven't turned it up it very far (yet).

As for overall performance, yes, I find it to be very "tube-like". It responds to picking dynamics and guitar volume nicely.
If I have it set with some gain to get dirt, and turn down my guitar volume, it cleans right up.

FWIW, I sold one of my tube amps (Traynor YCV-40T) to fund this purchase.

Also, FWIW, Robben Ford has said he is "very impressed" and I'm guessing he's hard man to "impress" at all.


Cal-Woody

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Sep 1st, 2017 07:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ahh yes, Robben Ford. Thanks for the correction!
And Thanks for responding to my questions also.

Yes, the amp runs around $900.00 here and no matter what, that is some serious scratch and have not demoed the amp yet and having listened to your style of music (provided link) I wanted to hear your experiences with this amp. It was also reaffirming that the amps sound is based on 6L6 tones, which are the amps I would compare it to.
Because play rhythm and some lead, I need the effects loop and a good two channel amp for versatility.
I'll keep watching this thread to hear how you're experiences are growing with this amp!
Again, Thanks for responding to my questions and please continue to post comments on how well you find the amp to handle tonal needs and how well it responds to different guitar pickups also.
Best regards, Woody

(This message was last edited by Cal-Woody at 01:17 PM, Sep 1st, 2017)

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Sep 1st, 2017 12:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't really get the whole 'tone capsule' thing. If I'm spending +/- $900 on an amp I don't really think I should have to spend more $ to approximate someone else's tone.

BTW, there's a guy on tdpri.com classifiedsright now selling the Eric Johnson tone capsule for $165, almost 1/2 off. (Not related to him/don't know him.)

Best of luck with your new amp, Mick!

Mick Reid
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Sep 1st, 2017 04:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I don't really get the whole 'tone capsule' thing."

I'm with you there archie. The price of the capsules here are $259AU, so yeah, a bit exy.

There are a few video comparisons of each capsule on YT (some better than others).

I'm happy with the stock sound of the amp. The *only* one that I could see having merit was the NY Blues. As mentioned above, it recreates a 6V6 tone vs the standard 6L6 if you need/want it.

I think the foot controller could be handy (and a lot less money) for players that don't use pedals.
I'm still thinking about one down the road just to have, but I like my pedal board.


Cal-Woody

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Sep 1st, 2017 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So, for channel switching, do you have to get a footswitch for that, otherwise, you have to physically reach over to the amp to change to distortion channel? And also assuming that the suggested footswitch from Roland will control: channels, reverb and possibly engage/disengage the effects loop?
I'm sorry for being so lazy, but with working in this 110 degree heat, I just barely get on my phone and try to keep up with all the fellas here. So, if I'm not out of line for bending your ears too hard, I would truly enjoy your outline on how this amp works and what is needed to control it.
This is so cool having your ideas and opinions to help answer my questions and help me and others to make a more informed purchase.
Again Mick, Thank you for indulging this old boy!

Mick Reid
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Sep 1st, 2017 10:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No worries Cal-Woody. Happy to help. I'll try to be as succinct as possible...

"...for channel switching, do you have to get a footswitch for that, otherwise, you have to physically reach over to the amp to change to distortion channel?"

Correct.

"...assuming that the suggested footswitch from Roland will control: channels, reverb and possibly engage/disengage the effects loop?"

Mostly correct.
The Boss (Roland) GA-FC is 6-button footswitch which will do:
CLEAN / CRUNCH / DUAL TONE / CLEAN-BOOST / CRUNCH-BOOST / TREMOLO on/off / EFX LOOP on/off.

FYI, the amp can also be operated with a 1 or 2 button latching FS, but gives less function control. (BOSS FS-5L; FS-6; FS-7)

eg: I have a 1 button FS I built that only allows me to the switch channels (Clean/Crunch - good enough for me)

I have a Vox 2 button FS will allow channel switching and activate Dual Tone or Tremolo & FX loop on/off depending on which input I go into. (they are separate inputs)

Just be aware that not all latching FS's are created equal. Some will work, some won't, but any of BOSS ones will.

TBH, I could get by with just the GA-FC, but would miss my Delays, Phaser and Compressor. (I still may get one though)

I prefer keeping my pedal board fully assembled for use with any of my amps at any time rather than having to mix & match as needed and I'm done having *multiple* pedal boards ;^)

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 02:31 AM, Sep 2nd, 2017)

Cal-Woody

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Sep 2nd, 2017 01:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I saw one used and it appeared to have a tone capsule in it and was wondering if yours came this way?
What is also nice is that it has a tremolo on it. So far, this amp ticks all the marks for me and can see that it will be an excellent fit for me and our band.
I'll have to see what Guitar Center might give me on trade for my Mesa Nomad 100 watt 2X12 amp and use it as a trade in.
I'd rather do it this way or consignment at a shop, because I won't have to deal with all the lookee-lou's!
The Mesa Nomad is a heavy beast and with verteully no hours on it. So, I probably would expect a fair price for it plus add some monies to get the amp and footswitch.
Well, I'll talk with GC and see if we can work out a deal that's fair and maybe make a deal! I think I'm going to ask them to ship the amp to the store and test it out, providing I can get them to go with my idea/desire. If I go in with this mindset, I'll hopefully come home with the amp/pedal and not more guitars! Lol Every time I go into Guitar Center, I fail at having any restraint and my GAS becomes the clear winner!
The other problem is that I have to go there with my trade in hand to get an estimate and while they're looking it over, I have nothing better to do than wander around the store and Poof! Something new shows up in my hands. I'm terrible at b dealing with my GAS, because I can justify everything to myself.
Thanks for sharing your insight and have a great day!
Woody

Mick Reid
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Sep 2nd, 2017 04:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I saw one used and it appeared to have a tone capsule in it and was wondering if yours came this way?"

No, the Tone Capsule socket is covered by a metal plate on a stock model.

Good luck with your wheelin' & dealin'!

Mick Reid
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Sep 7th, 2017 02:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After playing with the amp more this week, I've decided to just add the BOSS FS-7 footswitch.

Using that in conjunction with my pedalboard will give me all the functionality I need. (and I can fit it on my board)

The FS-7 will allow me the option to either do channel switching (clean/crunch) *and* tremolo on/off or I can hook it up to do clean/crunch/dual tone.

That'll do me!

{edit} A bonus is I'm pretty sure the FS-7 will work with my Vox NT-15 as well.

(This message was last edited by Mick Reid at 04:19 AM, Sep 7th, 2017)

Mick Reid
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Oct 14th, 2017 07:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I haven't been able play my Blues Cube much since the first week or so due to space & volume constraints (even at .5w it's pretty loud in a small room).

But I pulled it out this weekend (bachelor weekend) and I'm even more impressed than when I first bought it 6+ weeks ago. Man, it just sound great.

It's good to know initial impressions weren't just new gear infatuation!

Still haven't got out to a jam yet but will soon, and now have good feel for the amp so should be an easy transition. Can't wait!!


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