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FDP Forum / Moe's Tavern (_8^(I) / Feather razor blades and the wet shave

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Chris Greene
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Sep 5th, 2017 09:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know, right? That it's a *hobby* to some is strange. For me, it's a way of doing something necessary and chore like in a better and more fun way (that's the soaps and creams part).

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Sep 12th, 2017 03:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

All right, orrk, how's it going a week later?

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Sep 12th, 2017 06:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ever since the Vietnam days I learned to dry shave and get rid of a blade after a use or three. That method still holds true as I purchase a bag of disposable razors that get used a time or three and then get tossed. The girls love to kiss my smooth cheek that that great old Bic can deliver.

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Sep 13th, 2017 03:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"All right, orrk, how's it going a week later?"

It's still going well. I'm getting better shaves than I ever did with my old electric razor. It's a little surprising to me that my shaves aren't more consistent though. Some days are better than others. As my technique improves, I suppose the consistency will improve too.

You're probably going to laugh at this but I'm going to try to make some shaving soap as my next step in DE shaving. I have been making bars of soap using melt and pour soap bases for years. I like the M&P stuff because it doesn't dry out my already dry skin. It looks like I can make shaving soap by adding a little liquid glycerine and bentonite clay to the mix. Worst case, if it doesn't make a good shaving soap, I can use it as bar soap.

Chris Greene
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Sep 13th, 2017 08:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

hushnel made some shaving soap a few years ago.

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Sep 13th, 2017 09:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Maybe he will chime in with 'lessons learned' from the experience. I am always grateful to learn from someone who has been there and done that.

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Sep 19th, 2017 02:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I finally whipped up and used a batch of my 'Melt and Pour' shaving soap for the first time yesterday and I must say that I liked the result. It smells good (vanilla) and it has just the right amount of slickness to keep that razor sliding. In fact, I think it's comparable to the Proraso shaving soap I bought as part of my starter kit. Only I can make my shaving soap for one fifth the cost.

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Sep 20th, 2017 08:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What are you using post shave? Remember, the big secret to shaving with a safety razor is a light touch, not too many passes, and a fresh blade. I guess that's three secrets.

I like an alum block because it doesn't lie and it helps ease any mistakes (though you pay that price with some stinging).

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Jim
Sep 20th, 2017 09:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK, I learned something new. I just bought a new Whipped Dog Badger Brush. Great Brush. Larry included the following instructions for a better wet shave.

Use a shave soap (I use Mitchell Wool Fat). Remove oil from face and beard by scrubbing for 30 seconds to a minute then rinse. Reapply soap then shave.

With two or three passes I am now getting much better results than before without the scrubbing.

And my wife can really tell the difference.

No need for after product my skin remains soft and smooth.

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Sep 20th, 2017 09:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I usually use a washcloth with a light touch while showering but I sure don't scrub. BTW, I love, love, love MWF. Some guys can't seem to lather it but I have zero problems and it's one of my very favorite soaps along with Speick (which I mill into a small ramekin bowl rather than use in its stick form).

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Jim
Sep 21st, 2017 11:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No problem with the lather here even with hard San Diego water mixed with Lakside well water. I use hot water on the brush so the lather is warm.

The scrub with silvertip badger and the MWF before the shave has improved the shave and leaves my skin softer and smoother that it was before I started the scrubb a couple of weeks ago. Give it a try.


Chris Greene
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Sep 21st, 2017 11:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Wait, so you "scrub" your face with shaving soap and your brush, rinse, and then do it all over again? I find that washing my face in the shower does what could be considered the same thing. I'm doing three to four lathers when I shave anyway. I guess I don't follow why this guy is suggesting what he's suggesting. Don't you already wash your face before you shave or or you not showering first?

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Sep 21st, 2017 02:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like to apply a hot towel over my freshly lathered face for a minute or so when I want an exceptionally good shave. After the towel has cooled, I use it to wipe the lather from my face, apply fresh lather, then shave. It seems to super hydrate my skin and make it extra soft/resistant to nicks/irritation. The fact that is feels good is just a positive side effect. :-)

Chris Greene
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Sep 21st, 2017 02:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Do you sit in a barber's chair while under the hot towel? Because that would be cool Real cool.

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Sep 21st, 2017 04:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Chris, I wish I had a barber's chair. Unfortunately, they go for boo-koo bucks, and I don't have anywhere for it even if I could afford one.

Chris Greene
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Sep 21st, 2017 04:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My barber lost his partner (he retired) but his empty chair still sits in the shop. It's rather plain, not like the cool ones from the old days that used to be a thing in a proper hippy domain back in the 70's.

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Jim
Sep 22nd, 2017 10:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

These are the instrutions that came with my new Whipped Dog Brush:

Save Soap & Brush Instructions
Optimal whisker softening requires the whiskers to be saturated with hot water. But, how can water soak into your whiskers if your beard is covered with water repelling natural oils? By using shave soap instead of shave cream. The shave soap removes oils so water can soak into your beard.
The following instructions explain one way a shave sap and brush set can be used. Feel free to experiment to find the best way for you. (These instruction only apply to hard shave soaps, typically sold in puck shape.)

Soften the Soap & Brush
Before even getting out your other shave equipment, place the shave soap puck in a coffee mug or small bowl. Run warm water into the mug covering the soap. This allows the surace of the soap to soften. Place the brush in the mug also, immersing the hair in watter to hasten softening of the bristles.
DO NOT immerse the handle in water as this will loosen the bond between hair and the glue plug! Also NEVER use boiling hat water. Animal hair, like human hair, will break with hot water.

Removing Oils & saturating Whiskers with Water
After a minute or two soaking , pour the water off your shave soap. Gently sling water out of the brush, just enough that it doesn't drip.. Then, swirl the brush on the surface of the soap until the brush is moderately loaded with soap. Do NOT press down as this can cause the hairs to tangle or break.
Now, scrub your face with the soapy brush for 30 seconds or a minute. The purpose of this step is to remove the oils from your whiskers.
Rinse your face with hot water to remove the shave soap and oils from your face.

Reapplying Lather
Now, swirl the brush in the soap to reload it with soap. The lather does not have to be foamy like shaving cream, just thick enough to stick to you face during shaving. This time, when lather is applied, the purpose of the soap is to soak the whiskers with water, and to avoid drying of the whiskers.

Shave
Then shave! If any portion of your face starts to dry, reapply lather.

Tips
Every few uses, wash the brush with conditioner. Conditioner keeps brush hair pliable and less likely to break.
Always finish by rinsing the brush in cold water. This helps lock in moisture and prevent breakage.


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Jim
Sep 22nd, 2017 10:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So the above instructions came with my new brush. The difference I see between washing your face in the shower before started the shave is:

The shave soap is different than the shower soap. Mitchells Wool Fat has a lot of lanolin that conditions your skin. Some soaps may dry your skin.

The brush may be more effective than other methods of scrubbing.

Of coarse, there are many methods and they all work. I found that the brush and MWF scrub left my skin in better condition after the shave.

So the brush soap scrub in something new to try to see if there is any difference or improvement in your shave.

Chris Greene
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Sep 22nd, 2017 10:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Let's just say this is one guy's opinion. Many others disagree with what he's advising. My method works great and pre-soaking soap may or may not be necessary. And while MWF is at the top of my shave soaps, a number of people have issues with lanolin and get irritation from it.

I have yet to see similar instructions from the more established manufacturers (Kent, Simpsons, Vulfix, etc.).

Chris Greene
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Sep 22nd, 2017 11:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

BTW, you do know that many people advocate using a pre-shave oil before lathering (I don't) so that's kind of opposite an approach than what this brush maker suggests.

Simpson, a very old brush maker suggests using pre-shave oil and not swirling your brush but use a painting motion.

Point being that lots of people have lots of opinions about how to shave this way. The best thing is to find what works for *you* and stick with it. My routine works very well for me and I'm not interested in changing it. If I was not get good results, then I'd be looking at why.

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