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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Epiphone nut material

Mick Reid
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Aug 12th, 2017 07:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The discussion in another post about the brass nut on the late model LP Jr's prompted me to post this one.

This is not LP Jr. related but regarding the nut on the el cheapo LP Special II I got recently.
(in my earlier "Epi-caster" post)

When I got it, the plan from the get go was to Frankenstrein it.
I thought one of the things I'd definitely be doing was replacing the "plastic" nut.

So I started pulling things apart and making adjustments etc, and decided I'd at least give the nut slots a little tidying up.

When I hit it with my nut files, I thought it would be like a hot knife through butter... but not the case. To my surprise the nut material was quite hard (which I've always understood to be a desirable characteristic). I have no idea what material they use, and I just presumed it was some kind of "cheap plastic", but it's not soft by any means.

Now it's got good nut action, break angle and smooth string movement(and I didn't have to "flare" the not slots). Nothing wrong with the sustain either. So looks like I'll be keeping the original nut afterall.


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Aug 12th, 2017 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've seen lots of different material used on factory Epi nuts. Cheap molded hollow polystyrene, Nylon, POM acetal (Delrin), Corian, phenolic, and even bone on the high-end models.

You may have POM or phenolic there if it's hard stuff.

Mick Reid
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Aug 12th, 2017 08:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Peegoo. Yeah, it's definitely not nylon or polystyrene (presumably the softer of the materials you listed).

Like I said, I could really feel the hardness against the nut files (and they're practically brand new (Uo-Chikyu Hiroshima).

Also, am I correct in my thinking of "harder is better"?

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Aug 13th, 2017 07:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Generally, yes. If you have some nut blanks and old nuts of various materials, drop each one from about 3" onto a hard surface. The best ones will ring. Tusc and high-quality bone usually sound best. Melamine, Corian and POM are pretty good.

Gibson used Nylon for many years with pretty good results.

Not all bone is good. The dense stuff is best. Some bone is pretty dead sounding.

Mick Reid
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Aug 14th, 2017 01:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...drop each one from about 3" onto a hard surface. The best ones will ring."

Good tip! Cheers

mirrorboy

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Aug 14th, 2017 02:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm sure Epi use POM. That's also what false gnashers are made from.

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