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jhawkr
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Aug 13th, 2017 03:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Now that's a GLOSS finish! I'm thinking titanium might be more to my liking but I do like the idea of a zero fret. Jury is out for me on the robo-tune. Looking forward to Tuesday!

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Aug 13th, 2017 07:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I'm thinking titanium might be more to my liking but I do like the idea of a zero fret."


Zero Glide makes a direct drop-in zero nut replacement for the wider nut Gibsons...it's a combination bone and metal. I ordered one for my Junior but decided to move forward with a traditional bone nut. I've added a link for that one. It doesn't have the adjustable height adjustment screws like the stock one, but includes several sized metal inserts.

There is a Tusq replacement drop-in insert for the stock brass one. You just unscrew the brass insert (the base stays in), and drop the Tusq nut in. You keep the adjustability of the nut height, just with a different material. I got one of those, too, but didn't install it...opting instead-as noted earlier-for the bone nut.

Zero Nut replacement

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I went to Sam Ash because the price point was very attractive and I wanted to try these out. Brief assessment, my thoughts alone:

Headstock overlay: goofy looking.
Automatic tuners: bulky looking from the rear but not noticeable from the front. Not very heavy - I expected the guitar to be head-heavy and it wasn't. Actually cool and functional. Pleasantly surprised.
Playability: the Junior's neck felt too wide and after a few minutes I felt fatigue. Not what I'm used to. The Specials (I played 2) were more comfortable.
Pickups: being somewhat of a P90 connoisseur, these frankly did not deliver for me. They were a lot snappier and strattier than a regular P90 and needed some tweaking to dial them in; even then I thought they were lacking something.

Still a nice buy at that price point, but I didn't like them well enough to lay my money down.


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Aug 14th, 2017 04:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"They were a lot snappier and strattier than a regular P90"

I think some of this is due to the brass nut. It adds a degree of sharpness/metallic defintion IMO. I've been doing some back and forth with my SG w/p90s, tomorrow I'll do another comparison with a LP w p90s.

(This message was last edited by professor at 06:27 PM, Aug 14th, 2017)

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Aug 15th, 2017 04:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It also has a different model P90 with Alnico magnets. It's supposed to be a bit brighter and snappier. I personally think I will like that as you can always roll a little treble off. I can compare it to 2- Les Pauls, an SG Classic and a Casino Elite with genuine Gibson P90's. Also have a cheapo Gretsch Jr with a Dan Grosh P90. It's hotter than a regular P90. The only thing I am a little apprehensive about is the .100" wider neck. It may not be a thing though.

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Aug 15th, 2017 07:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK, the bloom seems to be off the rose for the tuners. The little machines can get confused and scurry around trying to make things right. By the directions string changing is also a more complicated drill. I don't think I'd want to rely on this device. It's a nice idea- press a button, make a selection and *voila*- but in practice it can go off the rails, and then you would be stuck. Interesting technology, but as a practical application it's a solution in search of a problem, which the simplicity of basic tuners had already solved.

That said, I'm not going to change it out. It's like having a complex pedal that does cool things, and it's fun to mess around with, but you wouldn't want to rely on it.

(This message was last edited by professor at 10:05 AM, Aug 15th, 2017)

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Aug 15th, 2017 08:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The stock brass nut might be able to hold up to regular tuners. I may try that. But I'm still going to go after Gibson for a titanium replacement. Pretty sure I will replace tuners with Grovers.

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Aug 15th, 2017 08:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I compared four Gibsons with P90s- a '96 Studio, the Junior, a '99 SG Junior, and a 2001 Classic.

The '96 Studio is the heaviest. Acoustically the least lively. Solid, rounded P90 sound.

The SG Classic, lighter weight (even with the Bigsby), is a bit more defined, rounded.

The SG Junior is the lightest, P90 similar but a touch brighter than the Classic, I assume due to the one pickup and no Bigsby.

The new Junior is somewhere between the Classic and SG Junior in weight. Acoustically the liveliest of the lot, by far. Very distinct and loud. The P90 is certainly a bigger and brighter, defined, almost jangly sound. Rolled the tone to 7.

I have not compared the difference in the pickup heights (they're all adjustable) compared to the set height of the Juniors dog ear. Same goes for the screws.

Also, the LP Junior's pickups are closer to the bridge than all the others, which would also add to the tighter/brighter sound IMO.


Four comparisons

(This message was last edited by professor at 10:33 AM, Aug 15th, 2017)

jhawkr
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Aug 15th, 2017 12:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My LP Junior came in. I un-boxed it and was surprised by the gold case! (See proof picture) I tuned it using the auto tuner thing. Worked great! Can't mess with it right now as I'm supposed to be working!

My LP Jr.

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Aug 15th, 2017 01:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looks Good.
I can see it is going to be a challenge to slip that gold case in among the others...

Nice collection, professor.

jhawkr
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Aug 15th, 2017 01:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I can see it is going to be a challenge to slip that gold case in among the others..."

That's a fact!

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Aug 15th, 2017 02:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I can see it is going to be a challenge to slip that gold case in among the others..."

No kidding, might as well put a flashing light and siren on it!!

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Aug 15th, 2017 04:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I should keep an eye out for a set of the robotic tuners for my Epi LP. Lol

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Aug 15th, 2017 10:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's quite a case they sent I've never seen any others like it. Been following this thread from the start as I'm interested in all things pertaining to Jr's and Specials, they are simple yet effective players. Congrats to all who scored. Those glossy Tobacco burst look sweet!

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Aug 16th, 2017 05:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The thing with the tuners as well is *change* the factory strings, especially given they're now likely quite old.

Then go through the calibration in the manual, and increase the sensitivity as well.

Do that, and you should be golden.

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Aug 16th, 2017 08:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's a pic of the cherry jr.

Sounds great. Robo tuners work. The "Les Paul 100" graphic is pretty hideous, but you get used to it. QC is outstanding. I own a few Gibsons and each one has a little imperfection, like micro bubbles in the finish or tool marks. Not this one. Well done Gibson.

Thanks for the heads-up on this deal jhawker.

Cherry Junior

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Aug 16th, 2017 09:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a LP Jr for a while, I can't remember what I did with it LOL. I believe I sold it before moving south. Fun guitar for geezer strap on/hammering out cowboy chords to Peace, Love and Understanding. While I have zero experience with the robotuners it's seems like a conspicuous addition to a 1 pickup/wrap around tailpiece guitar. Cargo shorts, tank top and a Fedora.

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Aug 16th, 2017 10:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice looking Cherry Red! The dot inlays really pop!

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Aug 16th, 2017 01:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's a brighter cherry hue than my SG. And the fret board is really dark. It has probably been darkened but nothing is coming off on my fingers. Yet.

I was surprised by the inspection check list with the photo of the actual guitar on the set-up bench.

How long has Gibson been doing this?

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Aug 16th, 2017 05:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My 2017 Standard also had a newborn picture in the case.

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