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Chris Greene
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Idaho, USA

I'm Uncle Sam, that's who I am
Aug 2nd, 2017 02:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know I might be their only customer from the FDP but I just wanted to give their customer service some praise.

In December 2015, during their end of year sale, I bought 4 all-cotton non-iron dress shirts. I got them, washed them, and wore one one time. Absolutely hated them (I prefer must iron oxford cloth shirts and own quite a few of theirs). Long story shirt, in spite of their 90 day return policy, they not only took them back but credited my account in full.

While Brooks Brothers is leaving most of their old customers behind what with their Italian owner's efforts to appeal to the millennial customer with skinny suits that are too short, etc. Their customer service remains terrific.

ECS-3
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Aug 2nd, 2017 04:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Being retired, I just can't justify spending $$$$$$$$ on clothes, even if they do outlast other stuff.

I'd rather spend my money on guns, ammo, camping stuff, etc!

Chris Greene
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Idaho, USA

I'm Uncle Sam, that's who I am
Aug 2nd, 2017 05:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have all that stuff. Besides, in my world, appearance counts.

daveg
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The Fine Line Between Clever & Stupid
Aug 2nd, 2017 05:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I rarely have to wear a suit, thankfully.
Years ago I picked up a BB suit for a great price. While I'd never consider buying a suit as an "investment", this would come pretty close. Classic style that isn't going to go out of style, well made...and well classy. As long as my gut doesn't grow, it'll still be in style years from if I'm buried in it.
I do pick up out their dress shirts when they price is right. Honestly I think they look better as casual wear with jeans than with a suit.

Chris Greene
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Idaho, USA

I'm Uncle Sam, that's who I am
Aug 2nd, 2017 06:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, as I've posted here before, pretty much all I've bought from BB these past years have been must iron oxford cloth button down shirts. I always buy them during the Father's Day or post Xmas sale and while not cheap ($50ish per shirt), I tend to wear them year round. I've also bought some sweaters from them in recent years, always on sale.

Haven't bought a suit in close to 30 years now and haven't worn one since moving to Idaho 23 years ago. I wear a blazer or tweed sports coat when I need to dress up. Frankly, I miss wearing ties but I really have very few occasions to wear one anymore.

Most of my khakis come from LL Bean because I like theirs the best of what I've tried.

In any event, BB suits ain't what they used to be.

cfender

Rockland County, NY

So many drummers, so little time.
Aug 2nd, 2017 09:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The "reissue" of the BB Made in USA MUST IRON OCBD shirts with the proper 3"+ unlined collars are GREAT if you can tolerate the absence of a front pocket.

I recently saw them offered at $100 rather than the original $145 when they first came out. I haven't purchased yet but I fondled them in the Madison Ave. store & the material/workmanship is good.

I've purchased the previous generation of BB, Mercer & Sons, O'Connells, & Ratio. All Made in USA. The new BB @ $100 is less costly than all but the Ratio which is made to order with most customization at no additional charge for $98.

(This message was last edited by cfender at 11:13 PM, Aug 2nd, 2017)

Chris Greene
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Idaho, USA

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Aug 2nd, 2017 09:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Having one of the new OCBD BB shirts and a good number of the previous generation, I like the old ones better. The collars are all about 3 3/8" but the interlining in the old version (it's a floating interlining so far as I can tell) gives the shirt a bit more substance. And, I NEED my pocket.

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Aug 2nd, 2017 09:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

CG-

I mentioned this before, but when I lived in Manhattan
I went to the BB flagship store routinely. I still have some oxford button downs I use for knockaround. They are very puffy and long, like a Seinfeld puffy shirt, with length like a tunic. Back then there was no slim fit. BB shirts were baggy,
and that was the look. What is the standard cut of the button downs these days?

Chris Greene
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Idaho, USA

I'm Uncle Sam, that's who I am
Aug 2nd, 2017 10:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They have 4 fits from the traditional baggy to metrosexual slim. I wear both the traditional and the next down which they call the 'Madison' fit. For me, the slightly tailored Madison fit is best but I'm fine with the baggy trad fit because it's what I grew up with. It's not a pirate shirt like on Seinfield IMO. They should be cut long so they stay tucked in.

At my age, I like to dress traditionally because I feel most at ease in khakis, a button down shirt, and boat shoes or desert boots. I do wear jeans on occasion along with my khaki or olive drab bush shirts when I'm doing outdoorsy things (like shooting guns or hiking locally). But I digress... ;o)

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Aug 3rd, 2017 07:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just can't understand the skinny-too-short-suit thing. Every reporter on the News looks like they accidentally shrunk their clothes.

tahitijack
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Aug 3rd, 2017 09:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you want to avoid the hay my cleaners shrunk my suit look, buy your jacket size in long. I haven't owned a suit in several years. This summer a close friend got married and the wedding was simi formal. I found a Calvin Klein skinny suit that fit great but bought a long.

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Aug 3rd, 2017 09:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The new millennial (what a dumb axe choice of a descriptive word) skinny , short, stupid looking , non functional uni .. is inspired by Pee Wee Herman... as are the millenials.

The New Age of Pee Wee Herman
TNAOPWH ... an old Skookum word for ridiculous or absurd.

Chris Greene
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Idaho, USA

I'm Uncle Sam, that's who I am
Aug 3rd, 2017 09:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got married in 1978. I was a stockbroker for Dean Witter in those days and the suit I got married in was a three piece, navy blue flannel that I'd bought at BB in SF. I've never been embarrassed by my wedding photos. Point being, stick with classic, not fashion.

Now, that said, I have my share of embarrassing clothes photos from the late 60's and early 70's but by the end of the 70's, I'd mostly gone back to classic style. Fortunately, the whole preppy thing kicked back in in the 80's so I was set for another decade.

tahitijack
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San Clemente, CA

Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Aug 3rd, 2017 09:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

All the references to BB reminded me of the late great Bill Blass.

cfender

Rockland County, NY

So many drummers, so little time.
Dec 27th, 2017 07:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought (2) pairs of dress pants at the Hackensack, NJ Brooks Brothers before Xmas & took them around the corner to the flagship 346 Madison Ave, NYC store for alterations today.

I paid for the items with several hundred dollars in BB gift cards from credit card rewards. I had almost $150 left in gift card value so I picked up one of the Blue Made in USA MUST IRON Oxford Cloth shirts. On sale from $140 to $100.

As stated above, they make these shirts WITHOUT a breast pocket and if it wasn't for the ability to pay with a gift card AND the $40 drop in price I wouldn't have done it.

Even if they were $100 regularly I can still do better having them made in North Carolina by Ratio Clothing who has my precise measurements on file. (I'm skeptical the Ratio $98 pricing can be sustained, especially since textile mills in NC are getting fewer and fewer. I just learned that Cone Mills/White Oak has closed, which was the manufacturer of the Made in USA Levi's Selvedge 501's I am partial to.)

On the other side of the pricing scale, I also purchased a Lands End Made in China "Hyde Park" MUST IRON blue oxford button down collar shirt online for $30 (pre-xmas sale). The material is good BUT the collar is only 3" which defies achieving the desired "Ivy League Roll" AND the collar and cuffs are lined with what feels like PLASTIC.

I was vacillating about returning it but decided to keep it as a "beater".

As MUST IRON shirts become rarer, I suspect that Lands End would actually sell MORE of these Hyde Park models if they lengthened the collars to 3 7/16" and abandoned the lining in the cuffs and collars. I suspect that their customer base for the Hyde Park model are geezers like me, looking for a low cost alternative to the >$100 OCBD shirt without lining/fusing and the proper collar length.

Anyway, these are my (2) OCBD compromises for 2017.

My favorite is still the Mercer & Sons but after they make my required adjustments (17" neck on a 16 1/2" body AND adding an additional button to their standard 6 button front) after shipping costs the price is like $170 if I remember correctly.





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Dec 27th, 2017 08:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got married in an Austin Reed suit. Man, that was a nice suit, best I ever owned.

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Dec 27th, 2017 08:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I buy a few things from BB when being clearanced out. Like cotton sweaters and casual shirts. I have a couple Red Fleece flannel shirts I like as they are fairly light weight, a good "in-between'r" shirt or to be worn with a jacket. For suits, I prefer Hart-Shaffner-Marx of Chicago. Very good quality in the USA made line.

tahitijack
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San Clemente, CA

Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Dec 27th, 2017 09:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you're looking to attract women, wear a suit and tie.

Chris Greene
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Idaho, USA

Nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
Dec 27th, 2017 10:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There's an additional 15% off on those ocbd shirts today (and tomorrow in stores). I like pockets but was going to pick one or two of these up for what would be $85. They showed a couple versions I wanted in my size and fit but when I tried to add them to my cart it came up "Page does not exist". In other words, they show them on the site as available in my size and fit but they aren't.

I suspect BB won't see much more from me as a future customer. I'd loaded up on the old style shirt (which I like better anyway) so I'll be good for, probably, the rest of my life.

As to the Hyde Parks, nice idea, terrible execution and the last time I ordered a couple, they still had adjustable cuffs like alpha sized shirts. Fortunately, we still have a Sears locally so LE returns are easy.

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What?
Dec 27th, 2017 11:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Having nice clothes is nice.

I don't partake myself, but I can appreciate the practice.


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