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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / Tele bite and twang...

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Foggy1
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Aug 28th, 2017 02:27 PM   Edit   Profile  

"My Baja Tele is ultra twangy and it's definitely the guitar"

Agree. :)

side-swipeTelecaster

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Sep 2nd, 2017 10:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

Finger style picking AND the guitar and amp I say...

I also say bulldung to an aforementioned opinion that hot pickups take away from twang----my Tele has a Duncan hot rails in the bridge and the guitar twangs w/a set of basketball size brass balls....




davywhizz
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Dec 15th, 2017 08:21 AM   Edit   Profile  

I believe the Tele steel bridge plate with the saddles sitting on it and the strings anchored through the body are the key design features. So different to how a Strat bridge and cavity work. And I definitely prefer three saddles to six on a Tele. I`ve used both brass and threaded steel saddles and found each guitar will tell you which is best. Some Teles, usually with mellower pickups and a rosewood board, need the extra bite of steel whilst others need warming up with brass.

(This message was last edited by davywhizz at 02:24 AM, Dec 17th, 2017)

Gottabe

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May 29th, 2018 06:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

I felt my 2010 MIM GCSpecial Edition Tele lacked the kind of Nashville twang I was looking for. I put a set of Seymour Duncan five two pickups on it and, wow, did that make a difference.
This isn’t my imagination getting getting the best of me — when one of my guitar students parents heard it, he told me that guitar really nailed the Tele sound.

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May 29th, 2018 08:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

A lot of the unmistakable "Tele twang" you hear from the traditional bridge pickup is a bit of ear trickery.

It's actually an EQ curve created by the differences in harmonics of the individual strings. When listening to a standard Tele bridge pickup, it's this EQ contrast that makes the treble twang even more apparent.

The EQ curve is created by the angled bridge pickup, which senses each string at a different distance from the bridge. This accentuates different harmonics on each string.

Stratocaster bridge pickups are angled too, but check this out: the angle is not the same as that on a Telecaster; it's shallower, as follows (note: measurements are averages, depending on string gauge/intonation).

Stratocaster
High E pole piece from saddle: ~1 3/8"
Low E pole piece from saddle: ~1 7/8"

Telecaster
High E pole piece from saddle: ~1 3/8"
Low E pole piece from saddle: ~2 1/4"

This places the low E saddle 3/8" farther from the bridge than on a Strat. It's also why--when you install a Tele pickup in a Strat pickguard--the tone is not entirely Tele flavored. It's close, but never bang on.

Even so, on other other guitars, and even with some humbuckers, you can get close to that Tele twang simply by picking hard, close to the bridge. It accentuates those upper harmonics.


Gottabe
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May 29th, 2018 11:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

Why do you think my Seymour Duncan five two pickups made such a difference? Their still angled the same.

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May 29th, 2018 12:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

Notalotta

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Peegoo
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May 29th, 2018 02:20 PM   Edit   Profile  

Gottabe, the way a pickup is made (ingredients and amounts) affects a pickup's voice.

For example, even if the Ohms resistance of two pickups match, different magnet material will make them sound unlike each other.

Leftee, I have two guitars with reverse Tele bridge plates. It does make them lose a chunk of their twang, but the tone is still useable. It's just different.

Leftee
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May 29th, 2018 02:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, I find it pretty neat yet hard to describe. I haven’t played this one through the Marshall yet.

Purple Valley
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May 29th, 2018 03:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

Johnny Hiland plays a Kiesel 'Tele' with the bridge pup direct-mounted to the wood, no plate. James Burton and G.E. Smith both have done the same with their Fender Signature Teles. I've wondered if the whole plate thing is a myth.

Mick Reid
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May 29th, 2018 04:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

Leftee: Better to be "twangless", than "wangless"...

"It's also why--when you install a Tele pickup in a Strat pickguard--the tone is not entirely Tele flavored. It's close, but never bang on."

Yep, on my Strato-Tele Hybrid, I have the exact same angle as a genuine Tele but the whole pickup is slightly further away from the saddles.

It still sounds great and very much like a tele, but it does have that little difference that's "hard to describe". Of course the pickups are a great pair of Aussie hand-wounds, so that helps :^)

this here gee-tar

Gottabe
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May 30th, 2018 05:03 PM   Edit   Profile  

"twangless" is "fangless."

Walked into Guitar Center in 2010, picked this up and couldn't put it down... With the Seymour Duncan five-twos, its nailed the sound I wanted, but its also much fuller sound than I expected. I'll never part with this baby.

My 2010 FSR Telecaster BSB (Special Run for GC)

(This message was last edited by Gottabe at 10:14 AM, Jun 1st, 2018)

Leftee
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May 30th, 2018 05:12 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have two that twang. I wanted one that didn't.

That and I'm weird.

Deacon Blues

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Jun 3rd, 2018 07:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

The lefty bridge plate really screws with the string positioning. As usual Mister Goo hits the nail on the head. Makes sense though when you put yer noggin to it.

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Jun 3rd, 2018 08:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

I tried a Five-Two in the neck position in one Tele and it was one of the most lifeless pickups I've ever had. Couldn't get it out fast enough, which leads me to believe there may have been something wrong with that particular one. I've had a ton of Tele pickups over the years, starting with my first early 70's Tele. Fralin, Lollar, Rumpelstiltskin, Fender Nocaster's, Lawrence Noisefree (current), to name a few. All were Twangalicious and I'm very pleased with the Noisefree's. If I wasn't exclusively recording at home I'd probably retool with one of the aforementioned.

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Jun 3rd, 2018 09:14 AM   Edit   Profile  

Aaron does make wonderful pickups.

Leftee
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Jun 3rd, 2018 06:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

AMEN BROTHER!

Preach it!!!

Achase4u
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Jun 30th, 2018 09:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

"I also say bulldung to an aforementioned opinion that hot pickups take away from twang"

Agreed. And yes, a 335, or any guitar for that matter, can twang. A 335 very much so. Many people don't realize that there were a lot of country players in the 50s and 60s who were actually on Gibson guitars, not Fender. Check out Roy Clark's numerous videos playing a Byrdland or some Gibson almost all the time... with Humbuckers. That guy got fantastic country twang tones.

Does it sound the "same" as a Tele? Of course not. There are differences. But twang? Without a doubt.

Achase4u
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Jun 30th, 2018 09:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

P.S. you guys are so sweet ;-)

Achase4u
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Jun 30th, 2018 10:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

and now let's enjoy the late great Jimmy Colvard giving us a virtuoso performance of Yakety Axe on not a Fender.

Jimmy Colvard

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