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BbendFender
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Jul 26th, 2017 07:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got into a fairly heated discussion with a guitar/amp repair guy, who has not played in a band in the 30 years I've known him.
I shared a story from the mid 70's where one of my bandmates would run his hand over the controls of our Shure Vocal Master PA head and turn everything back to "0" when we finished playing a gig. I said "hold it, what are you doing? The controls are set already".
Well my repair friend said "that guy knew what he was doing". I think not.
I leave my guitar amp settings right where they are when I finish a gig. I'm not all that particular but I know what sounds good, why change the settings. I have never, ever had problems with noisy pots just for leaving my settings in one place. I do understand that dust can collect in the pots but this has not been a problem with me.
By the way, the guy in my band still knows absolutely nothing about tone settings on a guitar amp or PA. He's one of those that if it has a knob, you can bet your bottom dollar he is going to turn it. He has trouble tuning his own guitar.
What do you guys do regarding the settings on your guitar amp or PA amp.

BrentD
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Jul 26th, 2017 07:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I can see regular turning off pots to keep them clean, but it's a lot more convenient to leave them be and spray some DeoxIT every ten years.

BbendFender
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Jul 26th, 2017 07:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This is more a rant about the guitar/amp tech. He corrects everybody on how they set up, tune or play their guitars. Same thing about amps. He's never played in any band as far as I know. Nobody could stand for him being in their band.

stratcowboy
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Jul 26th, 2017 08:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I leave my guitar amps "as-is." I may tweak them from time to time for specific locales, but I at least have my baseline settings from which to work.

As for the PA, there are so many knobs and sliders there that I wish they would always stay in the same position. Just too much stuff to remember for all the channels/mains/monitors/sliding EQ/EFX, etc.



BrentD
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By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings.
Jul 26th, 2017 08:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

These new iPad/Android WiFi mixers are pretty cool. No moving parts and you can save settings.

BrentD
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By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings.
Jul 26th, 2017 08:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^ I was just thinking: you could pull up the app and give him the wrong iPad!

BbendFender
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Jul 26th, 2017 09:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys. They guitar/amp tech I'm talking about is not on the FDP but is a "god" on another forum.

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Jul 26th, 2017 10:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There's nothing wrong with leaving the knobs alone.

If he says "toe-MAH-toe" and wants you to say it the exact same way--or you'll be wrong, he can go pound his potentiometer [shrug]

reverendrob
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Jul 26th, 2017 10:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I live in the dust bowl, between the potato fields, building construction, and my own Byzantine church-level incense habit.

I only turn knobs, well, when they need to be turned.

There are amps I *never* turned the knobs on channels I didn't use in years of gigging, or things that *never* got changed on the Space Echo, etc.

Yet...they kept working just fine for a decade of abuse!

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Jul 26th, 2017 11:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"He's one of those that if it has a knob, you can bet your bottom dollar he is going to turn it."

Hah!!! Reminds me of guy I knew years ago that would always offer to "do sound" for you...

He turned knobs and pushed sliders like he was playing a freaking electronic instrument!
Cripes he was annoying!


davywhizz
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Jul 27th, 2017 05:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One of the wisest things I ever heard, from someone I knew about a soundman we had who wasn't that good: "he mixes with his eyes not his ears".
Personally, all I do on guitar amps or PA mixers is turn the master volumes down to zero at the end of a gig. Just to avoid any unwanted noises when they go back on again.



reverend mikey
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Jul 27th, 2017 08:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I tweak the knobs on my guitar amp when I switch from single coil to humbucker equipped guitars... that's pretty much it.

(This message was last edited by reverend mikey at 10:13 AM, Jul 27th, 2017)

DrKev
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Jul 27th, 2017 09:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know where I like to start with my knobs but each room and stage sounds different and gets adjusted accordingly, a balance between what I like to hear and front of house and I have a 'technique' for micing the amp that helps. For me, it doesn't make any sense at all to never touch the dials.

BbendFender
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Jul 27th, 2017 09:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think most get the point but maybe not all. I'm talking about turning "every" knob back to "0" at the end of every gig. No sense in doing this.

urbtone

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Jim O.
Jul 27th, 2017 11:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like to leave the PA knobs alone - amps too. But now it's not like the olden days. :>) Everybody has a camera now - just take a pic of the knob settings you liked, and let the guy turn 'em back to zero. Problem solved.

carsten

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Jul 27th, 2017 01:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Haha ;-)

I was going to say something, but then urbtone solved all the problems:

"Everybody has a camera now - just take a pic of the knob settings you liked, and let the guy turn 'em back to zero."

cheers - C.

stratcowboy
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Jul 27th, 2017 01:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Everybody has a camera now..."

Not.

Though I've made my career as a pro photographer, that ain't the kind of gear I bring to a gig. And, no...I don't own a phone, either.

I'm happy leaving the knobs where they are and if need be adjust them to the specifics of wherever I'm playing. Just as easy (if not more so).

fiestared

USA/Georgia

Turn that thing down!
Jul 27th, 2017 02:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The last cover band I played in, the standing rule was all settings were left alone at the end of the gig. Those settings were the starting point for the next gig. That rule worked out very well for 13 years. It saved a lot of time at the next gig.

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Jul 27th, 2017 03:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I leave my amp and the PA settings as is; then adjust as needed next time.

Ayns

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Jul 27th, 2017 03:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

At one gig few years back we spent about 40 minutes "sound checking", which was quite a long time for us. When we eventually got a decent sound we called it a wrap, at which point our bass player walked over to the desk and pulled all the individual channel sliders back down to zero!!!!!

I was so astonished I didn't know what to say to him. He thought he was doing good. :-(



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