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FDP Forum / Miscellaneous and Non-Fender Topics / 12 string capo

greg1948
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Jul 5th, 2017 06:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I picked up a used Recording King 12 string which I tune a step low, which is usually recommended to reduce tension. So I tried 3 different capos on it, all of which did the same thing - they damped the octave strings. Kyser makes a 12 string capo, which is a little longer than the 6 string model to accommodate the wider neck, but I suspect it would still dampen the octave strings. Does anyone have a recommendation here?

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Jul 5th, 2017 08:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

All I've ever been able to do about it is to get real close to the fret and clamp it down hard enough to engage the octave string. Eliminates rattles but then you usually need retuning a bit. Love the sound ,hate the capo about sums it up for me!
When the rubber on my capo got hardened through age it got even worse. Maybe a softer material would be better on a 12 string?

Ayns

UK

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Jul 5th, 2017 10:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I also tune my 12 strings down a full step, so I need a capo for songs in Concert pitch.

I bought a Paige 12 string capo a few years ago which is marketed as being specifically for 12 strings. I was quite disappointed when it arrived as is simply a normal looking capo that comes with some small sections of plastic tubing that you have to slide over the capo bar yourself at the correct spacing to fret the octave strings (I presume).

Suffice to say, it didn’t work for me and I ended up using a “normal” Shubb capo, which sort of does the job.

If I was intending to play in concert pitch for more than a couple of songs, I would recommend tuning the guitar open, then fine re-tuning after the capo was in place.

larryguitar19
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Jul 5th, 2017 10:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah the problem is keeping the intonation correct.

I use the Shubb for the 6 string because I can precisely control the tension on the clamp. The Kysers are 'all or nothing' and the clamp tension is really tight. So on a Martin D28 the Shubb is definitely the way to go.

But for some reason the Shubbs don't work well on 12 strings and the Kysers work better. I think it has to do with different string gauges so close together and extra padding on the Kysers which conforms better.



Cal-Woody

USA/California

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Jul 5th, 2017 02:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the old standard elastic wrap style would be best. Yeah, they don't lift off in a hurry but they do work.
So, once you are in tune then no more worries.
There are others that work well but as someone has already mentioned, any clamp style of capo needs to have new neoprene rubber or it will not catch the octave strings.

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Jul 5th, 2017 04:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm not a 12-string player, but I have one of these in a 6-string model.

Works great for me. Maybe a bit pricey, but works best of any others I've had.

G7th

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Jul 5th, 2017 04:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Kyser 12.

It works great--but you have to place it a little farther behind the fret than a capo on a 6-string.

Experiment and see where the best place is so you get clearly-ringing strings.

This one.

greg1948
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Jul 6th, 2017 06:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had tried my G7th capo with normal tension and it didn't work very well. Then I read the blurb from Kyser about how their 12 string capo had extra tension. Went back to the G7th, clamped it down real tight and, voila, all strings sounded clearly. I'll probably pick up the Kyser as well.

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Jul 6th, 2017 08:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't have a 12-string now, but I do have a Republic resonator with a fairly wide neck.

My G7th works like a charm.
I use it on all my guitars - electric and acoustic - and it's the best capo I've ever used.

I keep thinking I need to buy a backup in case anything ever happens to the one that I have.
I have a Shubb as a backup, now.
Never liked the Kyser's.

wborys
OldFartBassPlayerWalt

Robbinsville, NJ

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Jul 6th, 2017 11:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Kent 12 string I had in high school was tuned down THREE semi tones.

I had to augment the ElasticBand/RubberBar capo
with little hard rubber squares to depress the
octave strings. It was a pain in the arse, but
worked well, if you left it in place.

I wonder if this strategy could somehow be used now for your problematic 12?

oldFartOnceA12StringPlayer Walt




Ayns

UK

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Jul 7th, 2017 05:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought a G7th capo a few years ago.

Didn't work for me on any geetars, electric,acoustic, 6 string, 12 string :-(

It must just be me though, coz a lot of other people like them. :-)

dustoff

USA/Illinois

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Jul 14th, 2017 11:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

These are not cheap by any means, but they do work on anything you put them on. I love mine

https://www.thaliacapos.com/

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Jul 14th, 2017 11:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would never buy a Thalia capo due to the annoying commercials they stick into YT vids.

Yuck!

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Aug 17th, 2017 09:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My 1971 Guild F-312NT sits at full concert pitch year after year and still has no need for a neck reset... not even close! I string it with Light gauge PB's from Gryphon.

I love my VICTOR capo when playing this guitar. Always remember to put that capo on as close as possible to the fret to maintain good intonation!

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