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super mario
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May 12th, 2017 07:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We are in the process of going through the stuff in my mother-in-law's home as she had recently passed. I pull up to get the first load of stuff headed to the dump and my wife comes out holing this blue round pedal that says "Fuzz Face". I immediately knew what it was as I have read and reread numerous articles about how Hendrix, Richards and Gilmore had used such to great success. The pedal was missing the back (thankfully it was in a box along with other stuff).

Upon inspection, I realized this was an early Fuzz Face as it said "Dallas-Arbiter England" in the smile area (see attached photo). The real question was whether is was the early germanium transistor model or maybe a later silicon transistor model. I knew it would take some research to find that out. Careful looking I found it to have the "BC-108" transistors which I believe are the third iteration that Dallas-Arbiter used sometime around 1970.

I've done my best to take good pictures of the internals to help ID the unit. They are in my profile under "Fuzz Face...".

How does it do? Well I was not sure if it would as the back was missing from the 1K fuzz pot. One quick connection to a 9V battery proved you don't have to have the back on the pot for it to work. She came to life, albeit very scratchy. Did some work on the wiring were someone had "tried" to make repairs and found the back to the pot and put it back on. With some Deoxit on the pots to clean the wipers and a fresh battery, we are back in business.

So I am asking the "Fuzz Face" gurus - any idea on when this pedal may actually have been built? It is a great find and I am having fun trying various guitar/amp combinations. So far it really likes the Peavey Reactor (Tele) with a mini-bucker in the neck straight into a '64 Princeton Reverb.

Yep - Fuzz Face Time

(This message was last edited by super mario at 05:23 PM, May 17th, 2017)

super mario
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May 12th, 2017 07:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's the custom backside....

There's additional pics in my profile....may upload additional if needed to help ID the timeline of manufacture.

External link

(This message was last edited by super mario at 09:49 PM, May 12th, 2017)

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May 12th, 2017 08:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Great find. Now the question is, who in your wife's family played through it?

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May 12th, 2017 08:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looks to be about 1970 vintage.

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May 12th, 2017 09:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's one on Reverb purportedly from 1970. Other than the plastic package of the BC108 transistors, the board and components look to be about the same as yours.

Check the pic of the circuit board

archiestone

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May 12th, 2017 10:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You find a vintage Fuzz Face in your MOTHER IN LAW's house? How is this even possible?

super mario
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May 12th, 2017 10:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The rest of the story we "think" is that my brother-in-law may have had it while in college in the late 80's and as mom's do she picked up stuff after him with the intention he may want it again some day. That's how it wound up in her attic. He is the same brother-in-law that entrusted his dad's '64 BFWK non-reverb Princeton to me for safe keeping.

I did see the one on Reverb and that is what intrigued me even more about these time capsules.

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May 13th, 2017 12:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very cool find ! That one looks pretty much exactly like mine, which I got from my Dad as a present. It dates from circa 1972.

Mike

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May 13th, 2017 06:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

:-O

Incredible find!

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May 13th, 2017 11:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I remember Dallas Arbiter from when I was starting in music but couldn't remember much more than the name. I just found this bit of history:

Dallas Arbiter and Sound City

rfrakes331K
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May 14th, 2017 02:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Those are Germanium transistors! They kept a few of these in the frdge. Used them till they warmed up, then switched to the next cold one. Changed the sound.

super mario
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May 17th, 2017 03:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just a little update - the pedal really has some super sweet tones. Have found that it really likes tube driven amps that are on the edge of breakup. This works perfectly with the Pignose G60VR which I keep set up that way - clean, till you really dig in and then it starts to nicely bark. With the Fuzz Face I can go from edgy overdrive, think some easy blues, to righteous rock, think ZZTop's Sharp Dressed Man, to heavy, thick growling fuzz - akin to the Stones Satisfaction. I really like how it cleans up nicely when I roll back on the volume, sounds like every other pedal review doesn't it?
This one is a for sure keeper!

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May 17th, 2017 05:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll give you $10 for it if you get bored with it.

super mario
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May 17th, 2017 09:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Too funny Leftee!

mirrorboy

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Jun 8th, 2017 12:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It must be getting homesick for old England by now.

I'll give you ten whole British Pounds for it sir.



JohnS

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Jun 8th, 2017 06:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mine was a grey hammertone finish and I do not believe it had any pcb, just parts floating in space. This was in the late 60's.

super mario
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Jun 9th, 2017 03:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mirrorboy - gonna pass on the 10 pounds.....maybe for a few 1000 GB pounds....

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