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iknowjohnny

usa

May 11th, 2017 07:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've had a GT100 about a week now. I also have a MIII and was very happy with that for a long time so i thought the GT might just be better. It is. The MIII will end up in graigs list when i get the time. Overall the tone is better and the effects are a lot better. Took a while for the speaker to shake off it;s newness tho. Sounded rather nasty till a got maybe 3-4 hours on it. Overall a worthwhile upgrade for me at least.

Oh, on the review above, i think it IS just your imagination. The data wheel seems sturdier to me than the old one. But neither is real high quality. On the other hand i have never felt one i thought was. Do they even MAKE pro level data pots?

(This message was last edited by iknowjohnny at 09:27 AM, May 11th, 2017)

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USS of A

May 11th, 2017 10:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Really interested in checking this out. I have a V1 which has been my favorite go-to since it came out. Based on the Youtube reviews the new models and effects sound great.

telegib

Canada

May 14th, 2017 07:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I haven't tried the GT Series yet will will definitely hang on to my MIII V2 series amp.

Here is a review of the new series.

Fender Mustang GT 200 amp review.

iknowjohnny

usa

May 15th, 2017 01:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not a review of the amps potential, not even close.He auditioned only stock presets which like the old mustang sound like %$#@. second, he says theres an out of phase issue? Then suggests the old model is better. Seriously, does anyone think a huge company like fender thats built great gear for about 70 years is going to take thier best selling amp line and release a lesser version? He just didn't give it a chance. I have both, old and new and owned my old one for 4 years. Gigged it and played it at home longer then any amp i've owned and IMO the GT is a definate improvement. Features and other non tone issues, thats another story and demands it's own discussion. But this guys opinion on the tone is 1/2 baked at best. It takes a week with a mustang just to begin to see the potential and definately won't happen in any amount of time playing stock presets. So i would suggest taking his review with a grain of salt. I;ve played my mustang 3 V2 side by side with the GT and to call the old one better in regards to tone is almost mind boggling to me.

(This message was last edited by iknowjohnny at 03:29 PM, May 15th, 2017)

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USS of A

May 15th, 2017 04:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My biggest complaint ...the app is buggy. I like the idea of the app...I can sit a few feet away and tweak anything. Much easier than the Fuse app, but clearly needs some work. Other than that, the models have improved noticeably...they seem to be tuned for practice- level volumes, so if you are playing real low you need to season it a bit with EQ. The effects are also improved and expanded.

In the end, this will be a winner if they keep to their promises and update the app and firmware.

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May 17th, 2017 07:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My Mustang III is the older "version 1." This made it easier for me to justify the version 3 GT to myself, lol. There are some features of the old versions that made more sense to me (actual, visible white buttons to change amps, effects, delay/reverb. Lots of menus to roll through on the new one, although the app makes a lot of this more convenient. You just have to go into it knowing that it will be obsolete in the not too distant future, while our Vintage tube amps will, with proper maintenance, go on snd on.

While it would be great if every modeling amp agreed with everyone's sense of tone, right out of the box, everyone's tastes are different. I felt the GT was darker than I prefer, so I changed the global EQ setting to "bright." I use Fender amps mostly, so that's more the tone I hear in my head. Much better to my ears already.

Then, after reading some tips on other forums, I started swapping cabinets on different amp models, and found the 412 V30 cab sounds huge, loud and proud with most of the amps models I tried.

There are other settings that can be adjusted such as sag and bias, but I haven't gotten around to messing with them.... yet.

There is a new amp update available as of yesterday. (This is part of what older guitarists HATE about these kinds of gadgets, and what younger ones crave, haha). Easy to do; have the amp look for the update through wifi, let it load, and then turn off the amp, turn it back on while holding the encoder button for 5 seconds, and you are updated. Pretty slick.


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May 17th, 2017 09:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Maybe I should get a Mustang GT to go with my Mustang GT?

Mustang GT

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USS of A

May 17th, 2017 12:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After having a few days with it, I am pleased with the improvements over V1 in terms of model fidelity and effect quality. I am also loving the looper function. The not so good...the Tone app is a bit glitchy and clearly needs some work.

There is a lot of chatter out there saying the Katana is a better product, but not to my ears. The GT has improved upon the earlier models in he areas that count to me. If you want a modeler for Fendery cleans, there is no comparison w/ the Katana.

schundog
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May 17th, 2017 07:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, I don't know how much of a shot this guy gave it, but probably the biggest proponent of the earlier Fender Mustangs, Shane, from "In The Blues," just totally panned this new model. He discusses his reasons for sending his back in this video. I'm not ready to throw the towel in yet, as I don't gig, and I have gotten some really good tones after doing some of the tweaks I mentioned earlier. One guy's opinion, regardless of who he is, isn't going to sway me one way or the other, especially now that I've messed with it for a while myself.

Mustang GT RIP

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May 17th, 2017 07:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Me neither... I like the tones I'm getting and it is significantly better than the V1 I used for 5 years. Everyone compares it to the Katana, and I find that amp horrible for clean and crunch sounds...

mirrorboy

Yorkshire, England

May 18th, 2017 04:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

To be fair, first time using a new amp on a gig is always a learning curve.

I'm still feeling my way with my Champion 40 on gigs and that's a modern amp with far less complexity than the Mustang GT.

So what, he pressed the wrong footswitch that probably raised a few eyebrows in the audience. I bet that did his head in more than the amp.

I agree with Shane about most youtube video reviews saying it's 'wonderful it's marvellous' but I think there's a danger in posting up a critical review too soon. His Mustang GT might have had a fault. His Blues Junior, which he exchanged it for, was faulty (two of them, I think, then he exchanged that for a guitar!?). Some buyer's remorse in there methinks.

The out of phase issue could have been speakers incorrectly wired. I think he could at least have tried exchanging it for another Mustang GT before posting such a caustic review, especially with his influential youtube presence.



telegib

Canada

May 18th, 2017 04:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I will definitely try the M GT when it arrives in my area. If the 4 button switch doesn't operate in a locked position meaning that the foot switch becomes a patch switcher and not selectable as a effects switcher through a single patch ...well that would be the downside for me. I don't want to be accidentally hitting another patch trying to engage the overdrive feature while playing live. I also don't want to dig into the amp software while playing on the fly at a gig.

The MIII is a very tonal and user friendly amp and IMO was the best digital amp for tone and user friendliness.

We will see.


iknowjohnny

usa

May 18th, 2017 05:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used my old mustang that way too, IE: mode locked. I am going to rectify the possible issue by simply putting some sort of a donut around the mode switch. If i do feel i want to use the mode switch at time i might possibly use something hard enough that i'm not likely to be able to switch it by accident but soft enough that is i put more then typical pressure on it it'll give enough to press the switch. I'm worried mostly about accidentally triggering the looper.

I prefer my GT's tone over my MIII, but the old one was great too.

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USS of A

May 18th, 2017 05:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There have been a few people saying the same thing ... you need the ability to disable the looper... that's an easy one, and I would think they will address it pretty quickly via firmware update.

tuninguitars

Indiana

lets take it apart
May 19th, 2017 12:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm wondering if the Mustang 3 can be updated to the same program sounds as the GT? Is the speakers the same? basically the 3 and the GT are computers with a speaker hooked to it and a pickup triggering it.. or am I having a nightmare
I do enjoy my Mustang 3 a lot!
I find if my fingers on my left hand are in the proper place out of the 132 choices and the right had is doing its proper thing with it's 6 strings
it really helps the sound of the Amp.......

(This message was last edited by tuninguitars at 02:54 PM, May 19th, 2017)

iknowjohnny

usa

May 26th, 2017 07:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I must say, the tone of this amp just keeps getting better as i learn it's secrets. And for me at least it beats the pants off the last mustang, and nothing will make me move back to one of those, But i also must say this amp is a big step backwards as far as switching and features. I have no idea what fender was thinking. I can and will make do without too much of a problem since my needs in that respect are probably much simpler than most. But i think fender is going to lose a lot of sales, especially to people who are upgrading from the last model because they will feel a big loss in switching options and features over their previous mustang. For me the tone is great and will keep me sticking with this amp because thats all important in the end. I just keep looking at the fact the tube amps i used all my life had much less options and no built in effects or tuner or a mind bending variety of sounds. But still, why fender ? Who makes these decisions that seem to go against what consumers want and need in a gigging amp. And if it weren't meant as a gigging amp, why make 100 and 200 watt models? Lets hope this changes via firmware because this amp has serious potential !

(This message was last edited by iknowjohnny at 09:51 AM, May 26th, 2017)

reverendrob
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May 26th, 2017 08:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Your existing Mustang will not be "updatable" except by selling it and buying the new model.

It's not a PC with "put whatever program on it."

iknowjohnny

usa

May 27th, 2017 07:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That brings up a question tho....why NOT a amp that like a PC allows you to put any number of software amp modeling apps on it? I would think that'll happen before long. After all, there are a ton of software modeling apps for PC. Imagine a amp with all of them installed ! Could be incredible. Mind numbing, but incredible.

(This message was last edited by iknowjohnny at 09:56 AM, May 27th, 2017)

reverendrob
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May 27th, 2017 01:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Has to have a financial reason to exist, be roadworthy, et cetera.

Plugins and PC stuff don't have a standardized format for hardware controls that an amp typically has, some are 32, some 64 bit (and the 32s don't run in 64 bit apps very well typically), I could go on...

If that's effectively what you want, best option is to get a laptop, install the programs you want, use a USB audio interface, run the guitar into that, into the PC, then out to a powered full range combo.

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