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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / Please splain to me about noiseless pickups...vintage noiseless in particular.

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ejm

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May 26th, 2017 02:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is a video pitting Noiseless against Texas Specials in a Strat.

It's really pretty good as far as demonstrating the noiseless versus not qualities. You may need to listen on headphones, but you can definitely hear the noise difference between the two.

One note: I believe that this video is for Hot Noiseless, and NOT the Vintage Noiseless. He is using a Jeff Beck Strat, which should be the Hot Noiseless.

There are some Tele noiseless demos on YT, but I could not find any directly comparing them against regular SC pups.

There may be one, somewhere, but I am not going to go through every one of those videos, listening to see if the players SHUT UP and stop playing long enough to hear the noiseless part of the equation. Yes we want to know about their tone. But their main reason for their existence is, let me see if I can pick it out, oh yeah, now I remember........they're supposed to be NOISELESS. Do us a favor, shut up and stop playing long enough to DEMO THE NOISELESS THING!!!!!!!!!!

(Yes, you guessed it. This is one of my pet peeves with YT people and their demos. Time to take a deep breath again, relax........)

Fender Noiseless versus Texas Specials - Noise comparison as well as tone

ejm

usa

May 26th, 2017 03:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is another similar one, not quite as good, using Dimarzio Areas as the noiseless pups.

However, this poor fellow suffers from that dreaded disease of WON'T SHUT UP-ITIS. Not as bad as some, but he's still got it.

Noiseless pickups - Dimarzio Areas versus Fender SC

ejm

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May 26th, 2017 03:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ryder wrote: "The guy at Fender said there is no totally noiseless single coil pickup. They can be made to reduce noise."

True. That is what the various flavors of Lace Sensors are. They are REDUCED noise, not noiseLESS. They are still single coils.

However, the Fender noiseless pups should be.......wait for it......noiseLESS. They fit in a single coil sized space, but they are not single coils.

I did not hear your conversation with him, but it appears something got lost in translation.

I will add that I have a set of Dimarzio Areas in a Clapton Strat. They are not 100% noiseless, and from time to time I still get some low level buzz from God knows where. Other days they are dead quiet. That tells me that it's something else in the area that is spewing out interference, and there's not much I can do about that.

But for a short time I had two Areas and one Lace Sensor in the guitar. No matter what, the Areas were WAY more quiet than the Lace.

(This message was last edited by ejm at 09:18 PM, May 26th, 2017)

amphead4

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May 31st, 2017 07:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Years ago my buddy put humbuckers in a strat and it still hummed. I shielded the cavity around the pickup selector switch and it was cured.

Sometimes it's not the pickups.

Ryder
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Butterscotch Blues
May 31st, 2017 06:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

amphead, that's a good one. I may try that next time I change strings.

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Jun 1st, 2017 08:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ryder,

I don't mean to hijack but it seems like the Hum Debugger is getting rid of the residual hum. Is that right? Do you like that pedal?

I have Dimarzio Areas in a Strat and they, along with humbuckers, still hum in my house. It's worse at peak times, so I assume is the neighborhood and house wiring. If the Hum Debugger works for you then I think I might try one.

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Butterscotch Blues
Jun 2nd, 2017 07:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Brent, yes, it works great both at home and church!

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Jun 2nd, 2017 07:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Great, thanks! Good luck with the VNs. I've heard they are really nice and was considering them when I got the Areas, but they were backordered and I got impatient.

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Butterscotch Blues
Jun 2nd, 2017 10:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I really like the sound of the VNs!

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Jun 5th, 2017 06:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

NEW ISSUE: My volume pot stopped working correctly playing at church yesterday. I noticed I wasn't hearing some of my notes. Then it would work ok. Got home, tested it on two different amps with the same results.

Sending it back to Sweetwater for repair, they're sending me a free return label...as the guy said, "Obviously it's on us".

So, could that have been part of my buzz problem?

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Jun 28th, 2017 10:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Finally! Sweetwater got "backed up" and had my guitar for over two weeks.

They said it was a grounding issue with the volume pot.
Ground wire laying over the shielding.

And, "I shouldn't be having any more issues". We'll see. I should get it back this week. Sweetwater has almost had the guitar longer than me.

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Jun 28th, 2017 04:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A "ground wire laying over the shielding" should not be a problem at all because the shield should have continuity with ground. That is plain goofy to state that as a cause of a short (loss of signal).

Something is amiss.

If you lived closer to me I'd fix the dang thing for you. Some guitars are just noisy, but there's almost always a way to mitigate the problem.

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Jun 29th, 2017 06:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Peegoo, I'd have you fix it too.

When I asked if that would have caused the original buzz, that's what I was told...I should have no more issues.

It gets here tomorrow and I'll be anxious to check it out.

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Jun 29th, 2017 01:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This is what the repair shop guy said, "This is only an issue with the volume. The ground wire was only resting on the shielding. Now that it is properly grounded you shouldn't be having any issues."

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Jun 29th, 2017 03:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ohhh...poor contact between ground and shielding?

That's different.

Hopefully it's quieter now.

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Jun 29th, 2017 06:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ok, whew! Little, very little, I know about such things.

Thanks Peegoo, that makes me feel better.

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Jul 1st, 2017 03:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Got it back yesterday. It is much quieter, and the volume knob works. At home it still does have the buzz but not as bad.

I'll play it in church tomorrow and see how it does.

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Jul 2nd, 2017 05:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Glad to hear it!

Cal-Woody

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Jul 2nd, 2017 12:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Besides the volume pot failure, my deepest wonder was maybe a proximity effects of being to close to your amplifier. When I'm at practice, I have to stand fairly close to my amp while playing my Strat and use positions 2+4 to reduce the hum effect and with a Tele, unless you use the middle position, it is only single coil then and was wondering if this is the issue.
When we play on a stage, I get to be further from my amp and then using single coils is a lot less problematic.
Just had to wonder if this could be the issue?
Food for thought and maybe a valid question.
Best regards, Woody

Ryder
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Jul 2nd, 2017 04:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Woody, yes a valid question. Not sure if it's the same but at church I play through a pod pro processor.

Today, I noticed hum that even my hum debugger didn't fix. I have to think it's in the system at church. Old!

The buzz is not as bad as it was, and it sounds very good!

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