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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / Please splain to me about noiseless pickups...vintage noiseless in particular.

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Ryder
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Apr 25th, 2017 04:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I recently purchased a new, Tele Deluxe thinline with the vintage noiseless pups.

This is the noisiest guitar I have. I'm playing thru a Carvin Vintage 16 and a Bugera V22. No gain, just clean.

Gibson P90s seem pretty quiet.
Fender Fideli-trons are very quiet.
Fender Vintage Noiseless are buzzing.

This is at home with wiring that isn't too bad.

I played it at church practice once, and it was buzzing quite a bit, through the Pod Pro and P.A.

Should I be calling my sales agent at Sweetwater where I purchased it?

I thought noiseless meant noiseless, as in no noise.

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Apr 25th, 2017 04:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, something isn't right.

Ryder
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Apr 25th, 2017 04:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dang, that's what I'm thinking.

Guess I'll have to get in touch with him tomorrow.

Ryder
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Apr 25th, 2017 05:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sent him an email tonight. We're going out of town for our anniversary tomorrow.

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Apr 25th, 2017 05:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep. I have 5 guitars with VN's. Never had any noise issues.

Unfortunately the only troubleshooting starting point I have for you is checking for a loose ground.

Ryder
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Apr 25th, 2017 06:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There is a Fender dealer fairly close to me. Maybe I can take it there under warranty. I'll see what my sales guy says.



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Apr 26th, 2017 03:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"There is a Fender dealer fairly close to me. Maybe I can take it there under warranty."

Hope that works out. It would be a bummer having to deal with return shipping, waiting etc if the guitar feels & plays good otherwise.


Ryder
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Apr 26th, 2017 06:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, otherwise it's great.

Ryder
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Apr 26th, 2017 07:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My sales guy just emailed back.

"Thank you for the email. I am really sorry to hear about your noise issue on the thinline tele.

I have started a service order for you with my tech support team, and have instructed them to contact you via email until you can call in.

I am positive they will have solutions for you and get you taken care of quickly."

Fast! I like that. I'm kinda stuck because it's my anniversary today and we'll be out of town.

Also just got an email from a Sweetwater tech. I'll be talking to him later or tomorrow.

(This message was last edited by Ryder at 10:40 AM, Apr 26th, 2017)

Ryder
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Apr 26th, 2017 11:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My wife had some personal business to attend to so I got a chance to call.

There is NO Fender authorized tech within 5 hours of me. I can't believe there is not one in K.C. But he told me while looking on his list. Or Fender's list.

Anyway, I'm shipping the guitar back, free of course, and they are going to fix it and send it back. If it can't be fixed, then they will send me a new one of like weight and wood grain. They're getting 5 new ones in.

Fortunately, I have another guitar I've been playing at church so I can wait.

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Apr 26th, 2017 07:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Look forward to a happy ending!

Always hear good things about Sweetwater CS. Bummer they don't ship to Oz!


Ryder
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Apr 26th, 2017 07:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for your posts, Mick. It's helps hearing from someone with the same pickups.

This is my third guitar I've bought from Sweetwater. A fourth went back because the neck had a 16 inch radius, and too big for my hand.

I like the 12 inch this tele has.

Ryder
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May 1st, 2017 03:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sweetwater emailed to let me know they received the guitar and it is now in the repair queue.

Who knows how many are in the queue?



Ryder
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May 4th, 2017 01:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Same as posted in A.W. Slim's thread.

Just heard from the tech at Sweetwater. He said they pulled one off the shelf and played them side by side...same results. He said the hum in these VN pups is inherent. Not his fault but I wanted to ask, why did they name them Noiseless?

My choice to exchange or not. This is the only guitar that fits my needs right now. Bad back, bad heart, gotta have lightweight. Want Tele tone. What a bummer! I can't afford to jump up to the Elite Thinline.

I chose to exchange for the same model with the deal of exchanging it for a different guitar altogether if I can't live with it.


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May 4th, 2017 02:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That just doesn't sound right. Indeed... why call them noiseless?

Ryder
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May 4th, 2017 03:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"That just doesn't sound right."

I know! Others here have installed them in teles and I don't hear them complaining.

I'll just see how it goes.

Ryder
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May 9th, 2017 02:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Got the new Tele today.
Still noisy, but not with the debugger. Now at practice tomorrow night I'll make sure the noise gate is on for my channel.
I sure like this guitar just the same.

Never heard back from Fender on this issue.

(This message was last edited by Ryder at 09:12 AM, May 10th, 2017)

plasar

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May 10th, 2017 02:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Ryder:

2 x Fender Strats with Vintage Noiseless, 1 x Fender Nocaster with Bill Lawrence Noiseless, and several PRS's with humbuckers and coil splitting.

* you should have almost complete quiet with any of the above noiseless pickups (stacked coils) or humbuckers.
* you should have a noise level increases with non-noiseless single coils and humbuckers in split mode, especially with gain turned up.

Do you have other guitars that you can swap in to compare with the same:

* amp
* cord (or wireless).
* planetary and geographic orientation (for effects of lighting, other electronic noise sources, and harmonic convergence).

There's something amiss here. =:-

(This message was last edited by plasar at 04:16 PM, May 10th, 2017)

Ryder
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May 10th, 2017 03:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's got to be my house wiring. I've tried other outlets with the same results, different guitars. Like I mentioned, the hum debugger makes them quiet.

I have a feeling the noise gate at the sound board has not been turned on for my channel. I'll fix that tonight, I hope.

Ryder
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May 10th, 2017 07:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Back from practice and the hum/buzz is there even though the noise gate is on. Sound guy was there and tried it before and after EQ. Same buzz either way.

He didn't know why. Great. Nobody has the time to really dig into it.

I'm taking the hum debugger on Sunday and see if that does it.

BTW, the guitar sounds fantastic!

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