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budg
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Aug 27th, 2017 12:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Great progress Blondestrat. I considered air on my Olds , but passed on it. I want to keep my car mostly period correct, but HEI and power disc brakes that the previous owner put on arent coming off .

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Aug 27th, 2017 01:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"HEI and power disc brakes that the previous owner put on arent coming off."

I wouldn't be pulling the HEI except for I can't keep it from blowing modules.

I've trouble shot wiring from power sourcing to grounds, multiple distributor units and they just want to blow modules.

I have tired of carrying multiple modules with me at all times. Then there is the annoying task of changing the damn things on the side of the road when it happens.

Another factor tipping me over the edge for the swap back was the factory tachometer is designed to be triggered by a points ignition (Negative pole of coil) so this gets me back in line with that as well.

This car did not come with a factory tachometer, I added that myself ... plus I added a factory console with gauges.

I did my disc brake conversion early on with this car. You don't realize how poor the manual drum brakes are until you are out in traffic among today's cars. A couple of times of everyone hitting the brakes and I'm hitting the brakes and heading toward the side of the road because my brakes won't keep pace with new cars. It was an even bigger concern for me when Queenie was driving the car. :(

The Camaro stops on a dime now.


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Aug 27th, 2017 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am greatful for disc brakes. Honestly nothing wrong with an ignition with points and a rotor. Back in the day that's all we had. It's just something different . I used to replace my points, rotor and condenser every year and never had a problem. You can still get a tach/dwell meter at Summit Racing.

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Sep 11th, 2017 12:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got the windshield installed today! That one is a big deal.

I had the rear window out and then the windshield out so I could weld in new steel (rust repairs) ... rendering the car pretty much useless.

Over the weekend I had the dash apart to go back through some electrical issues. I converted the car form *idiot lights* to factory gauges and tach about 20 years ago. All of the gauge wiring changed and had to be hand crafted by me at the time.

Sadly, with it being done so long ago, plus I've worked on several cars over that time ... Looking at this stuff now is only vaguely familiar.

After pulling the aftermarket A/C system out I had some wiring issues to clear up. I think I got them all including getting the heater wiring back to what it will need to be for a factory heater install. I'll be putting in all new harnesses in the future, but I need it to work for now while I take care of other issues.

I have located a complete heater assembly for my car, just need to finalize the deal and get the stuff here.

Anyway, while the windshield sets up I'm going to go reassemble the dash in the car and maybe this afternoon I'll take it out for a ride. Maybe even a ride to Discount Tire for some new rubber. I really need to replace those 18 year old tires. ;)

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Sep 11th, 2017 12:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I really need to replace those 18 year old tires. ;)"


But they're low mileage, right?


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Sep 11th, 2017 12:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"But they're low mileage, right?"

I'd bet they don't have 3,000 mile on them.

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Oct 8th, 2017 06:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A little of what is happening with the Camaro recently.

I purchased a factory original heater assembly from a member of the Camaro Forum I frequent.

Installing the heater was not necessarily on my list of things I intended to do right away, but here it is and here I go.

Below is a PIC of the heater opening from the previous install of the Vintage Air AC system I removed. I don't think installing one of those requires this much cutting on the firewall ... but it is what I had to work with.

Time to start welding in sheet metal. :(

hacked up heater opening

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 09:03 PM, Oct 8th, 2017)

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Oct 8th, 2017 06:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

here is a shot of that ragged void at the top after new steel had been installed.. I was also welding all manner of other unnecessary holes as I went. A few of those are visible as well.

One patch done.

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 09:04 PM, Oct 8th, 2017)

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Oct 8th, 2017 06:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The patch on the end of the opening.

this one got some extra steel.

the small block cars had the heater core installed so the tubes come through behind the head there on the engine. Not so convenient.

The big block cars had the core installed so the tubes come through over nearer the fender well. Much better deal.

The heater assembly itself is identical between the two applications with nothing more than holes in the case to allow for the tube exit nearer the fender. the small block case can easily be modified to work that way.

with either application the openings where the small block cars would be were there and were just sealed with a foam insert on the big block cars.

Since I am welding in steel anyway I just made sure to weld it in far enough over to not need the foam seal. the steel heater case will simply seal right up to a solid steel firewall and all is good.


End of opening patched in.

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Oct 8th, 2017 07:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is a shot of the area finished up a bit better.

I pulled the distributor and wiper motor so I could clean up a bit more behind the engine.

I'll be pulling the fenders off the car at a point if the near future, so the rest of the sides will get done when that happens.

This work will allow me to move forward with some other aspects of the project ... some of which needed to have the firewall fixed before I could get those other aspects done right and finalized.

The yellowish stripe across is just Seam Sealer between two body panels of the firewall.

The visible rim around the newly finished heater opening is just from the rubberized foil coated insulation I applied to the inside of the fire wall.

And a little closer to finished off

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 09:09 PM, Oct 8th, 2017)

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Oct 9th, 2017 03:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You are talented with a stinger Larry!

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Oct 9th, 2017 09:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You're a better man than I. I'd burn the engine compartment or the dash down if I didn't pull the engine and dash/wiring out of the car.

When I did the resto on my '57 I had all that stuff out and did my firewall before I put it all back in. Firewall clean-up was my least favorite part of doing the car. The car had an aftermarket heater and fortunately the sheet metal wasn't all carved up.

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Oct 9th, 2017 12:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The inside is pretty well stripped out.

With the old AC system gone and the glove box pulled it's really just a slab of steel in there all the way over to the gas pedal. ;)

Peel the carpet back and toss a cover on it ... not too bad.

Had to re-rout my oil line for the pressure gauge. It was coming through the firewall directly behind where the factory defrost duct would cover it.

Next up is get some paint on there so I can get the engine running again.

I am putting in a stop plate for the vacuum advance on the distributor, so there is that little project (taking my distributor apart and putting it back together again) coming up before I can install it in the car.

I have the remainder of today off, so I'll get out there and get after it. :)

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Oct 9th, 2017 05:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I always liked distributor work. I was one of the few guys in Cleveland that could get a dual point in a 351 Pantera to work. I was also one of the only who would crawl in against the firewall to do it.

I painted the '57 black. I must have had 400 hours in that thing just shadowing and block sanding to get it straight. I finally got to a point where I just heck with it and shot the thing with acrylic lacquer and was done. Never a black resto again!

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Oct 10th, 2017 11:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought a restored '69 in '05. For the last 12 years I've re-restored it to what I wanted.

Z/28 Dover White w/Black stripes. ZZ383 425hp, Autogear 4 spd., Moser diff. All the good stuff. Multiple show winner.

Pix on my Facebook page: Dave Boles

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Oct 22nd, 2017 08:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Firewall all painted and ready for inner box install.

Some black paint

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Oct 22nd, 2017 08:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Heater parts all cleaned up (welded in some holes where someone had put screws in the case previously), sand blasted, epoxied and painted.

I need to get the seal kit installed so the diverter flaps all seal up like new, but it's getting close to ready.

Tested the fan motor and it appears to be good to go.

heater parts

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Oct 22nd, 2017 02:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When I built my '56 I wanted to put in HEI, but it meant hacking up the firewall, so I used a standard distributor but I removed the points & condenser and installed a Fireball electronic ignition conversion module. It dropped right in & saved the future hassle associated with replacing points in a GM distributor

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Nov 10th, 2017 01:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Camaro just made it's first trip some place for some reason.

Took it to the gas station to fill up the tank.

The PIC below might not look like much to most folks, but I have got a lot accomplished on this thing over the past few months.

The entire unibody and doors are painted Capri Cream (except the rocker panels which will be black). That work included the basic body work of course and welding in quite a bit of new steel to solve problems of age and water.

New carburetor and New ignition system (points) with reworked advance curves for better street performance.

Even had it's first oil/filter change in over ten years this morning.

Eliminated the old non functional Vintage Air AC system and replaced it with a factor heater (which I completely restored). All of the heater system inside the car is complete and functional ... Still need to remove the P/S fender to install the outer case with the fan assembly. Sadly, the way these cars are designed the fan portion extends up inside that fender and can't be installed with the fender on.

That process will be my opportunity to sand blast and paint the P/S fender, hood, cowl and maybe the front chin and nose panels. Just depends on how ambitious I decide to get when I start into it. ;)

I'll pull the D/S fender for blasting and paint at some point after that.

Anyway, as the car sits today it is 100% drivable. The interior is still quite sparse due to the continuing work, but it finally qualifies as a car again for the first time in ten or twelve years!

It will still need new tires though before I get too carried away with any high speed extended driving.

As of today

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 05:18 PM, Nov 10th, 2017)

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Nov 10th, 2017 02:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's coming along nicely. Have done a few cars over the year I can appreciate the work that goes into it. Nice work. I've always liked that color.

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