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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Will anyone who owns a Seagull acoustic measure and tell me what the fret hight and width is?

catnineblue

LA , Calif

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Mar 25th, 2017 06:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For some reason mine even though I got it new and have not used at all that much it looks like either the on-line music store where I bought it may have tried to level them. It's possible they did nothing and I bought it in 2006 and it's a 2004 model year.

I'm pretty sure it was the music zoo where I got an A&L AMI ply top almond parlor yet I'm not sure. There is one Music Zoo and I have the paper work on it yet their address is not valid or not the same as the one I used.

FunkyKikuchiyo

VT

Mar 25th, 2017 07:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think a visual assessment would be better than comparing to measurements.

Bear in mind that they'll get a leveling at the factory. Sometimes it'll be so slight you'll barely notice, sometimes it'll seem like they're half gone.

catnineblue

LA , Calif

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Mar 26th, 2017 05:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I think a visual assessment would be better than comparing to measurements."

Did a visual which does not help much other than they are not real low.

"Bear in mind that they'll get a leveling at the factory. Sometimes it'll be so slight you'll barely notice, sometimes it'll seem like they're half gone."

Seagull has changed a few details since 2004 , the S series I have is just before the coastline series came out. Now they epoxy the neck in and the bolts only hold it in place mine the finger board is only glued to the top and the bolts hold the neck. Plus they changed the shape of the bridge and saddle.

I bring this all up because I watched their factory tour on You Tube and it that they show pre cut frets just set lightly with a hammer then just the finger board with the frets goes into a machine that presses the frets in at a certain pressure and they claim there is not need to level them. I have absolutely no idea when this so called machine was in use. I never liked the idea of installing frets in a finger board not glued to the neck simply because things change.

This is why I asked for someone to measure theirs just to get an idea . I would not say mine are even close to half gone or why Seagull would even do this which makes a new guitar in need of a fret job right off the bat. Who would be happy with that? Seagull is not a shoddy company.

I prefer a taller fret like the EL-00 Pro EPI I have.

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Mar 26th, 2017 05:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Seagull S6 Coastline Cedar, serial number 029518xxxxx. It's a ~2005 model.

I measured the frets with a Mitutoyo dial caliper in 20 random places on the fingerboard; the fret height is consistently .035" and width is .080"

This means the frets were probably not leveled at the factory. I've had it since new, and I've not touched the frets because it still plays and sounds great.

[edited to add pic]

Cedar top and cherry sides and back

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 07:58 PM, Mar 26th, 2017)

catnineblue

LA , Calif

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Mar 26th, 2017 07:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Peegoo I appreciate it. I don't have a great dial caliper it's a sort of plastic one I got from Mac tools years ago yet it does have a depth gauge rod deal.

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Mar 26th, 2017 07:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool--that should work if it measures in thousandths. Many plastic dial calipers measure in 100ths of an inch.

Take measurements in a bunch of places. The wood of the fingerboard does vary (the grain has little valleys, etc.), so consider that too.

catnineblue

LA , Calif

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Mar 27th, 2017 02:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had to modify the Matco dial caliper which reads in thousandths of an inch , shortened the depth rod and filed a round slot to sit over the frets. I read .040" and .042" tall so figure .041" and .085" wide. Most were .042" few a few near the body 19th- 21st were .040" .

I have the action set at 3/32" High E and 4/32" low E 12th fret and close to .010 relief 7th fret.

My home made fret rocker showed a few that just barely rocked since no fret buzz due do a higher action I'm leaving well enough alone.

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