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JJuran
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Mar 18th, 2017 09:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You didn't say what your budget is, or whether you're open to building something.

But I think you're talking about about a 5E3 Fender Deluxe. And it's definitely something you can gig with if it's built by a reputable builder and backed up.

This platform is pretty straightforward and heavily copied as well as re-issued by Fender. Mostly because they sound great with the tone and feel that you describe. Lots of good builders make them or you can build your own.

You can buy a new Fender handwired re-issue at zzounds -they have a blem advertised there for $1549. New from factory, it's about $2K USD.

Victoria 20112 is the same amp and about the same price. They are highly regarded.

Both are covered in tweed and hand wired.

Or you could go vintage / collectible... and pay even more for the same amp that probably needs work. Not advised unless you really are a collector.

There are lots of kits available too from the likes of mojotone and mission amps. You could build your own for about $850 from either place.

If resale is a concern, try to find a pre-owned fender re-issue (if you can find one) or especially the Victoria.

As I type this I'm waiting for the Carr Rambler fans to chime in ... That amp is a bit pricier than the new Fender, but there are lots of fans of that amp. I just don't have any experience with it. It is very highly regarded, but not exactly 5E3.

Good luck. Sounds like a fun adventure.


carsten

on the rhine

Mar 19th, 2017 02:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Deep!

+ 1 on the Tweed Deluxe!
It´s SO popular for a reason ;-)

I used to own a "real" Tweed Champ - now I own a Tweed Deluxe "clone", and I´m even happier ;-)
The Deluxe has so much more sound to offer - from piano-like cleans to all-out "grunge".

Plan on purchasing an attenuator to got with it if you want to crank it up in your house!
Even the Champ (at 5 watts) was too much to really get it cooking at bedroom-levels.

cheers - C.



Deep

Kathmandu, Nepal.

Mar 19th, 2017 11:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hmm...thank you Peego, JJ and carsten. Ive been reading a bit on Fender tweeds and in my price range it looks like getting a reissue Fender handwired Deluxe reissue at a used/ blemished price is the way to go for me.

I know there must be innumerable examples of the classic Fender 57 deluxe tweed tone recordings but can you please recommend me some songs I should listen to that has that definitive tweed deluxe tones. Thanks!

carsten

on the rhine

Mar 20th, 2017 12:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Deep!

The entire electric work of Neil Young (since 1968´s "Everybody knows this is Nowhere") was played through a Tweed Deluxe!

Then there´s the original recording of "Blue Jean Blues" by ZZ Top.

Lots of other stuff from lots of people - including a new tune of...

Yours truly ;-)

Deep

Kathmandu, Nepal.

Mar 20th, 2017 03:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice tune Carsten! Thank you for the references.

MLC

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...it's good enough.
Mar 20th, 2017 08:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got a Mission 5E3 (Tweed Deluxe clone) that is my favorite amp.

And whenever anyone asks for a Tweed Deluxe example, this is the one I go for. Esquire into a pair of Deluxes - pure tonal heaven...

Black Crowes

surfdog
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Jim
Mar 23rd, 2017 02:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lil Dawg D-Lux. Affordable, very high quality, great sound, you can pick your electronics and mods. Jim is the best to deal with. Call him!

freddycaster

usa / North Carolina

"just a twangin"
Mar 23rd, 2017 02:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Find an early USA made Pro Jr in tweed.
Tone for days!

JJuran
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Mar 24th, 2017 12:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Deep - For another example of tweed deluxe tone, check out the opening riff to Steely Dan's "Don't Take Me Alive" ... legend has it that Larry Carlton and his ES-335 went straight in to an old tweed deluxe wide open for that track.

carsten

on the rhine

Mar 24th, 2017 04:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi!

"Find an early USA made Pro Jr in tweed.
Tone for days!"

When I got my 5E3-clone I happened to own an early (tweed-model, blue-AlNiCo speaker) PJ, too - and it was no comparison. The 5E3 sounds richer/fuller, has better cleans AND more overdrive on tap.

The PJ is a nice amp, and I´ll probably get me another one some time - but, if funds permit, I´d recommend to take a step up and get a 5E3.

cheers - C.

JJuran
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Mar 24th, 2017 09:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No intent to hijack this thread, but got to comment on Carsten's recording ... really nice sound all around Carsten - great mix, great sound, great guitar sounds... really liked that.

carsten

on the rhine

Mar 25th, 2017 02:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey JJuran!

Thanks a lot for your kind words - much appreciated!
I´ll pass it on to the boys ;-)

The basic track (bass, drums, rhythm-guitar (into bf Deluxe!)) is recorded live and I overdubbed the vocals and the lead-guitar with my 5E3-clone - no pedals on this track!
The mix was done by our drummer and a friend of his!

best - C.

Pinetree
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NW Pennsylvania

Mar 27th, 2017 01:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Excellent recording.



carsten

on the rhine

Mar 29th, 2017 12:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Pinetree!

Thanks a lot!


Hey Deep!

How´s your search going ;-)


cheers - C.

Deep

Kathmandu, Nepal.

Mar 30th, 2017 12:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Carsten, the search is ongoing leaning a lot on the 5e3. Its low watt and such a classic tone. I'll prolly get one later this year when funds will be available.

carsten

on the rhine

Mar 30th, 2017 01:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Deep!

Way to go ;-)
Hope it´ll work out for you soon!

cheers - C.

(This message was last edited by carsten at 03:20 AM, Mar 30th, 2017)

guitargeezer
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Hotlanta, Jawga

I'm not old...I'm vintage
Apr 5th, 2017 05:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For years, I thought that one of my all time favorite lead tones...Don Felder on many of the Eagles' hits...like Hotel California...was a Les Paul into a Marshall. Nope...Les Paul into a tweed Deluxe

I'll second surfdog's recommendation of the Lil Dawg...I've had two...but they may be a little hard to come by in your neck of the woods, Deep.

I'm actually awaiting delivery on 5E3 made by the late Brian Cox...can't wait to have a 5E3 again, and good luck with your search.

Deep

Kathmandu, Nepal.

Apr 5th, 2017 01:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

guitargeezer, thank you! With the addition of a new 5e3 amp i hope to complete my collection of "low watt" classic tube amps. The four amps are:

1. 1966 Princeton Reverb
2. Marshall 2061X and matching cab
3. Vox Ac15 C1X
4. Fender 57 Tweed Deluxe.

guitargeezer
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Hotlanta, Jawga

I'm not old...I'm vintage
Apr 29th, 2017 06:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thought I'd update my last post. My Cox 5E3 did arrive and I have been thoroughly enjoying getting to revisit the beauty of this simple, yet awesome circuit.

Even though I had two 5E3s before, I never really had experimented with the interplay between the two volume controls, so this time I'm taking the time to really explore its versatility.

You're gonna love one, Deep!

Cox Deluxe Ultimate

Deep

Kathmandu, Nepal.

Apr 30th, 2017 08:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice amp guitargeezer!

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