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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Is this a really old Strat neck. Possibly a prototype?

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DrKev
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Feb 24th, 2017 02:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not a neck expert but, my first thoughts are...

The first 50 esquires had no truss rod (Leo Fender had to be convinced to put adjustable truss rods in) but those were not strats. In '59 neck dates were marked in pencil, not stamped or marker, and would be on the butt of the heel under the truss rod nut.

With all the extra drill holes, and no other proof of provenance, and those crappy photos, I wouldn't pay for it at all.

stratcowboy
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Feb 24th, 2017 08:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A couple of years ago, the Custom Shop was making a special run of Strats that featured a neck with no truss rod. Just sayin'...

Not sure what this particular neck is all about.

Hammond101
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Feb 24th, 2017 03:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It does not look Fender to me but it has lived a hard life.

I can't really see the headstock but the heal contour look wrong.

Steve Dallman
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Age is just a number...mine is big
Feb 27th, 2017 07:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I can see the original tuners were a strip, like many cheap Japanese necks from the 60's had. This is a cheap, old neck with a fake decal. Worth maybe $10.

BbendFender
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Feb 27th, 2017 05:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I finally got to see the neck today. It looks real to me. I know the tuners that were on this guitar at one time are not original. If it is indeed a real Fender neck, it may have been pulled before it was finished (truss rod). There is a crack in the rosewood that may have gotten it pulled from the production line.
I took a magnet and placed on the back of the neck and found there is a truss rod under the fretboard but the hole at the end was never drilled. Brazilian rosewood fretboard. I took more pictures but haven't downloaded them yet. Not sure if I will try to get it or not.

Mick Reid
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Feb 27th, 2017 06:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If it is indeed a real Fender neck, it may have been pulled before it was finished (truss rod). There is a crack in the rosewood that may have gotten it pulled from the production line."

Isn't the truss rod installed *before* the fretboard goes on though?


Peegoo
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Feb 27th, 2017 06:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

In the mid 1960s Fender experimented with a steel non-adjustable truss rod (it was called a Uni-Bar IIRC) and several down-market acoustics escaped the factory with that feature in the neck. Martin had successfully done this (they called it a T-Bar) and Fender was trying it for themselves: rout a channel in the maple, glue in the steel bar, and then glue on the fingerboard).

I'm speculating here: that neck you show in the pics might be a mid-60s experiment (they had just brought back the "slab" rosewood fingerboards) to see if it was feasible on a Strat neck. That may be the case.

However, Fender rarely installed decals on their experimental guitars. So I'm guessing whoever ended up with it (an employee, perhaps?) stuck some decals on there and it got used on several FrankenStrats over the years.

As mentioned above--without some documentation or official appraisal--the value is pretty minimal.

BbendFender
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Feb 28th, 2017 07:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The decal has been on this neck for a very long time. The decal appears to be put on over the nitro finish.
Not sure what to do on this, whether to bid or just let it pass.

Mick Reid
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Feb 28th, 2017 08:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd vote for "pass". Too many unkowns.

Pinetree
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Feb 28th, 2017 08:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You just know he wants it.




BbendFender
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American Patriot

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Mar 1st, 2017 10:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I may bid on it but it won't be much.

Peegoo
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The spotlight

looks like a prison break
Mar 1st, 2017 03:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No more than $30.



Hammond101
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Mar 1st, 2017 05:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was going to say $20.

amphead4

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Mar 2nd, 2017 07:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If it has too much relief, you'll have to compression fret it to get it back where it needs to be.

reverendrob
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Mar 2nd, 2017 01:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd wager Vietnam-era clone more than anything.

BbendFender
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Mar 4th, 2017 10:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I won the auction for the Strat neck. We'll just go from here.
It did not go for nrearly as much as I thought it might.

(This message was last edited by BbendFender at 03:54 PM, Mar 4th, 2017)

Pinetree
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Mar 4th, 2017 11:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lol.




Peegoo
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looks like a prison break
Mar 4th, 2017 02:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

stratcowboy
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Mar 4th, 2017 05:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Hmmmmmm...words of wisdom for the times we are living in.


BbendFender
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Mar 4th, 2017 08:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm out of town and won't get my hands on the neck until late next week. I'll know more later.

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