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FDP Forum / Performer's Corner / Best microphones for recording an acoustic live group?

wborys
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Robbinsville, NJ

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Jan 30th, 2017 08:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been asked to record a choir performance in
my church, 16 folk singing in a 'traditional' choir
formation, perhaps a flute, and also piano.

Are any microphones better (or worse) at recording
this acoustically, from about 30 feet away. I
don't want to go through any mixer, but want the
mix of live and reverberated sounds. Was thinking
of wide stereo capture, and a third in back for
ambient sound.

I have two shure Beta 58a's and an EV N-D767a. Could these do the job, despite being 'vocal'
performance mic's?

Juice Nichols
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Jan 30th, 2017 09:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

wborys,

Those mics will surely work, but wouldn't be my first choice (or 2nd, 3rd, or 4th for that matter). If it's all you have then by all means use them.

I've done this a couple of different ways with good results. The first way is to use 2 small diaphragm condensers looking over the shoulder of the conductor. All of the voices are aiming at the conductor so this is a good starting point. The further you space them, the wider the sound is going to be. Additionally, the further you move them back from the choir, the more room sound you're going to get.

The second way is with a large diaphragm stereo condenser mic in the middle and 2 more LDC's on each side of the choir aimed at the singers on the left and right sides of the group. Mix all 4 tracks to taste.

If you're limited to the mics you listed, use the 2 Beta 58's as I described in the first example.

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Jan 30th, 2017 07:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would use a pair of PZMs.

The clarity of these mics, properly set up, is mind blowing.

These are really good. Shop around for best price.

Juice Nichols
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Jan 31st, 2017 06:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes Peegoo, I've heard that they work very well for this. We have a Shure Beta 91 in the studio where I work. I haven't used it in this application, but I've been told they work very well for micing stage performances.

My only complaint with this mic is I can never find the dang pigtail that goes with it. It somehow never makes it back into the case with the mic. LOL

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Feb 1st, 2017 07:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Might want to look at this

Q2N

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Juice, I used heat shrink on the adapter pigtails to semi-permanently attach 'em to the cables.

They're not getting lost unless someone cuts 'em off.

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Feb 2nd, 2017 12:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dynamic cardoid mics (the ones you have, and many others) do what they do for a reason.

They are not intended to be placed 30 feet from the source.

Do some homework on "proximity effect", and you will understand.

Juice Nichols
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Feb 2nd, 2017 06:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Juice, I used heat shrink on the adapter pigtails to semi-permanently attach 'em to the cables.

They're not getting lost unless someone cuts 'em off."

That's a great idea Peegoo! I'm going to do the same thing.

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Feb 3rd, 2017 07:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"My only complaint with this mic is I can never find the dang pigtail that goes with it. It somehow never makes it back into the case with the mic. LOL"

Couldn't agree more....that's why I bought the Sennheiser version of the Shure...no in line preamp.

Warren Pederson

Canada

Feb 13th, 2017 10:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

how does one use a PZM mic? How are they mounted? Do they clip onto a mic stand?

Juice Nichols
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Feb 14th, 2017 06:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For this application you would just put it on the floor in front of the group.

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