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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Anybody notice this about MIM Lonestar Strats?

drksd4848

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Jan 25th, 2017 10:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought a Lonestar strat body about a year ago to bolt on to a very nice Musicraft neck. I figured it was less expensive alternative to paying for something American.

But when I finally got the thing in my hands it felt like the contours were really off; way less strat-like and way more Charvel like. When I compared it to my other strats, (Amst, HWY 1, MIM)those strats had far more softer, subtle curves; more fluid, warmer, organic -even my MIM.

Not so with this one. The tummy cut was borderline ridged. The body had harder edges. I mean, to say it was Charvel like is probably a bit of an exaggeration, but I kept looking at it, thinking it was. Even the polyester finish on MIM had a softer feel than the Lonestar's.

It had all the warmth of a blow up doll (I mean, not that I would know first hand of course... It's just that I can imagine.)

It also felt wafer thin too, compared to the other. No beef what so ever. It was down right lifeless.

Needless to say, I'm ditching it. I scored an American Special body and I'm going to try that.

So, anyway...

Has anyone had that experience with those MIM lonestars? Am I the only one here? I know I totally trashed it, but maybe some people prefer it, I dunno. This stuff is all subjective.

BTW, how do the contours on the American Special feel? Compared to the HWY 1, Am Standard, MIM etc.?


(This message was last edited by drksd4848 at 12:55 PM, Jan 25th, 2017)

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Jan 25th, 2017 11:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Interesting. I know they still make that model in the MIM Roadhouse version. Essentially the same guitar as the AmSpecial, except MIM. I've often wondered how they compare, but haven't had the chance to play them side by side. I'd also like to hear reports on this.





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Jan 25th, 2017 05:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I guess it depends on the body style they copped for the LS model. Modern Strats are fairly 'soft' feeling--with smooth body edge radii and shallower, rounded chamfers on the tummy cut and forearm relief.

Some mid-50s Strats have surprisingly hard corners and steep relief angles.

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Jan 25th, 2017 06:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We haven't reviewed this comparative image of Strat contours recently here on the FDP. So check it out...

...here

drksd4848

USA

Jan 25th, 2017 07:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, I tried to see if there was any info in the product descriptions about the kind of contour the LS strats had, but nothing specific was mentioned. I have found that the contours can vary between specific models of strats, but its always subtle. My MIM and my American Standard have different contours, but its a subtle difference. Same with my HWY 1. You'd have to be a person who plays strats regularly, or actually sit there and A/B them a few times to feel it. But that Lone Star had such a stark difference. I was floored.

You know, another thing about it I noticed was the pickup cavity was bare wood. No over spray, no coating. That also struck me as odd.

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Jan 26th, 2017 05:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No, but I don't pay much attention to such things, only whether a Strat plays and sounds good.

drksd4848

USA

Jan 26th, 2017 08:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

5Strats:

I hear you, I get it. I'm pretty much the same way, the only factor for me is the neck.

But this was so different. Especially since the neck was smooth and good. I had never felt that way about a strat before.

Funny, the Lonestar body kind of looked like the new MIM Jimmy Hendrix strat body. Bare wood cavity. Something that I had personally never seen before (although I'm sure you guys have). Never on my American, MIM or HYW 1.

MIM jimi on Flee Bay

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Jan 26th, 2017 09:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm sure I played one of these at some point at a music store, but I guess I didn't notice anything different.

The only Lonestar I've owned is the MIA version.

drksd4848

USA

Jan 26th, 2017 09:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd bet that one is an entirely different animal.

I wish I could have a forum meetup where I could pass this thing around. Kind of like a wine tasting ;)


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Jan 26th, 2017 07:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I wish I could have a forum meetup where I could pass this thing around."

It's called an FDP Jam. Ever been to one? If not, it's about time you did. Gear whores as far as the eye can see :o)

drksd4848

USA

Jan 27th, 2017 08:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh, I'd love too! I'm afraid I'm too out of practice to jam. Although, it may motivate me to practice.

Anyone scheduled for the NYC suburbs anytime soon?

drksd4848

USA

Jan 27th, 2017 08:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just wanted to add, as a final word to this:

I got my American Special body in the mail today, and I was able to compare the LS strat to it.

Night and day difference, at least to me.

Where I really notice it is at the point where the belly cut tappers to the bottom half of the guitar. The LS body feels incredibly thin through there. I think that's were it was really driving me nuts. And, also to my hands, the edges around the horns are much more pronounced, as opposed to the American Special body which has a more traditional rounder edge. That's were it feels more Charvel-like.

Anyway, good riddance. If anyone want to see what I'm talking about, it'll be on ebay in a few days.

DragonFire

Jersey Shore

Jan 28th, 2017 05:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

drksd4848

just to be clear here and not to insult....you are certain this LS body you purchased is a genuine Fender product?

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Jan 28th, 2017 06:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

DragonFire, that's a good & legit question.

drksd4848

USA

Jan 30th, 2017 02:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

DragonFire:

Ya know, that IS a VERY fair/legit question, and it hadn't crossed my mind.

I will say that it came fully loaded with hardware from the Stratosphere, the resident Fender cannibal. (albeit with no pick guard or pups).

I'm pretty sure it had a Fender stamp on it, and it also has those three divots punched into it, on the right of the pup cavity to indicate it is MIM.

The body is still sitting on my work bench, so I'll double check when I get home tonight - which would be a good idea considering that I was planning to sell it as a Fender.

Since it came from the "hatchet"-sphere I blindly assumed it was legit, because they themselves seem to be legit. But again, good thing to check up on. Ya never know...

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Jan 30th, 2017 10:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They could also believe to have been one - if sourced from a damaged or second-market one...then...they'd not know nor likely care as they sell it either.

The "is it legit" honestly would be my first question when you're so off from what others are mentioning.

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Jan 31st, 2017 01:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Anyone scheduled for the NYC suburbs anytime soon?"

Keep an eyeball on the Jams and Events section for the next Clamfest, probably in the May timeframe.

It's at Oak Tree Lodge near Belmar/Asbury Park, NJ; Fellow FDPer 'picnic' hosts it. If you know only three chords, you can show up and have a blast. It's not a 'pick-up' jam...it's very organized, so you can get into practice because you know what you'll be playing on before you show up.

A pic from last spring's Clamfest

ecfan

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Jan 31st, 2017 12:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for that jam heads-up, Peegoo. I'm only a half hour from there, and, barring the unforeseen, I will be there!

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Jan 31st, 2017 05:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Outstanding.

We also have a DC jam coming up in March. Small place, HUGE talent!

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