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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / American Vintage '52 or New Professional Series - which Tele would you buy?

reverend mikey
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Jan 9th, 2017 10:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thread title says it all...and it's one of these two in Butterscotch Blonde, because I'm a lefty, and there aren't many other cool lefties available.

Also, there are some used '52's that are around the same price as the New Professional...

...so it comes down to specs.

What I like about the '52:
The larger neck - most Fender necks feel too small to my hands, which are used to playing Warmoth's that I've built, many with 1.75" nuts. I'm also fine with the 7.5" fingerboard radius (I'm pretty flexible on this spec).

Vintage pickups - but I need to hear them against the New Professionals - anyone compared yet?

What I like about the New Professional:
Compensated barrel saddles on the bridge. Fender did the right thing by putting the old style "ashtray" bridge on these, and the compensated saddles are a major improvement, IMHO.
Pickups might be *better* (a personal choice, I know) than the '52's ... but again, haven't heard both side by side.

Thoughts...???

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Jan 9th, 2017 10:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd want this.

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Jan 9th, 2017 10:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would be very interested in (a) the pickups, and (b) the frets.

The pickups, you just have to A/B, preferably in the same setting at the same time. To me, the AV52 pickups are *the* classic Tele tone, but I haven't heard the Vmods.

The AV52 has vintage style frets, the AP has "tall/narrow" frets. That could be a deal breaker for me, I generally dislike overly tall frets. Again, have to try them.

I wouldn't worry about the compensated saddles. Wilkinson ramp-compensated Tele saddles are cheap on eBay.

Other miscellany:

The AP has a treble bleed circuit, the AV52 doesn't. Easy to add to the AV52 if you're handy.

The heel truss rod adjust on the AV52 doesn't bother me, but it might for some people.



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Jan 9th, 2017 10:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For me it would be an easy choice. The 52 AVRI. I prefer vintage specs so there you go.

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Jan 9th, 2017 03:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Why are the pics backwards? Need to get right side up.

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Jan 9th, 2017 05:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"the AP has "tall/narrow" frets. That could be a deal breaker for me, I generally dislike overly tall frets."

Same here. My preference is medium jumbos on a 9.5 radius board. Since neither of the choices have this, I'd go for the AV '52.

I actually prefer the modern bridges, but "astray" bridges don't bother me. Really, the only vintage spec thing that does bother me is the heel truss rod adjust, but not a deal killer if all else is fine on the guitar.

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Jan 9th, 2017 06:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've owned two '52 AV Teles and sold both. The first was to solve a cash crisis and it was an easy guitar to sell. The second left when I found a '57 refin with a route repair and modern electronics. I decided if I was going to mess with a heal truss rod I may as well have a vintage instrument to fuss with. Thus, when I spotted the '57 for a very reasonable price I sold the second '52 AV and set about replacing the controls and electronics on the '57. If it were me I'd go with the '52 AV for the coolness factor alone.

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Jan 9th, 2017 06:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd probably go AP but would have to try one first. The AP has a "Deep C" neck shape so I'd have to feel that and the frets to see if I like them because I was never a fan of the previous "modern C" shape. Also the new pups, haven't heard any reviews on them yet.

The AP also has the treble bleed (easy mod but anyways), truss rod adjustment at the nut, compensated brass saddles, 22 frets. I did like the belly cut on the previous Am Std. Wish they'd kept that.

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Jan 9th, 2017 06:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for your replies.

Pinetree - $1,300 for a used Tele - no thanks (even if it has the plastic on the pg. And if I get a sunburst, I'm going all the way and finding one with double body binding, a la Marty Stuart's "Clarence".

Te 52 - good reminder about the Wilkinson compensated / ramped saddles. An easy mod for the AV52.

There are a couple shops where I should be able to try them side by side.

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Jan 10th, 2017 07:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Personally the AV '52 appeals to me more. I really dislike anything but vintage tuners on a Tele and something about the butterscotch on the Prof looks off.

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Jan 10th, 2017 09:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

AV '52 all the way.

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Jan 10th, 2017 10:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

" Personally the AV '52 appeals to me more. I really dislike anything but vintage tuners on a Tele and something about the butterscotch on the Prof looks off. "


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Jan 10th, 2017 12:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Actually, I'm going to build a Warmoth Tele to match my Warmoth Strat. Nobody makes 'em like that!

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Jan 10th, 2017 03:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Nobody makes 'em like that!"

I'll say. I musta been on drugs.

Whaaaat??

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Jan 10th, 2017 07:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

AV '52 for me. I had a AV '52 Hot Rod and loved it. I was forced to sell it due to unforseen financial requirements.

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Jan 10th, 2017 09:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm also a fan of the old style vs. the new.

telegib

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Jan 12th, 2017 05:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would definitely check out the American Professional.


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