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FDP Forum / Fender Bass Guitars and Bass Amps / Thoughts on this '59 P

iammr2

Lower Slobovia

Pass me the onions..Yeah, the green ones
Jan 3rd, 2017 10:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One thing is for certain. If I were shopping in that price range, that neck is coming off for inspection.

Here's the ad.

cisco
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Show Low, Arizona

Bottom Sucker
Jan 4th, 2017 09:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep! That neck HAS to come off.

rockdoc11

USA

Bass is the place . . .
Jan 4th, 2017 12:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

According to the ad, each of you guys is out of your mind!

;)

"We chose to not remove the neck -- most likely the neck has never been removed -- we do not feel that it should be us to break this seal for the first time so, based on all the other incontrovertible evidence we have herewith stated, we declare that the bass is original and anybody who would pull apart the neck from the body to be able to write down the neck date is certifiably out of their mind since it is not required for proof of year. It's a '59."

George E, you out there?

(This message was last edited by rockdoc11 at 03:38 PM, Jan 4th, 2017)

rockdoc11

USA

Bass is the place . . .
Jan 4th, 2017 12:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As always, Spinal Tap knows what's best for a vintage instrument.

"It can never be played"

digiboy

New York City

Jan 4th, 2017 12:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think the experts here would want to see a few shots of the back of the headstock. Gotta check out the tuning gears. Should there be a strap button back there or not?

I can sympathize with not wanting to remove the neck but for that kind of cash...

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jan 4th, 2017 06:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

1959 is the only year in Fender pre-CBS history in which the vast majority of the rosewood slab board necks made at that time DO NOT carry a neck date. Pulling the neck to verify a bass is a real 59...one in which the neck butt would be blank... has been the "industry standard" among players and collectors for at least four decades.

I have seen (and have photos in my collection) of at least one or two 59s in which someone wrote "OK" on the neck butts in dark pencil.

The statement..."most likely the neck has never been removed"...is just plain silly. The seller is almost for certain not the original owner (or he/she would have said so) and so has no idea if the neck was ever removed back in the day.

The neck shows several features to support the probability that it is an early slab...a 59 or 60. The one appointment, or lack-of, that would nail it as a true 59 would be a photo of the back of the headstock. Most 59 slab necks do not have a strap button on the flip side, but a few very late ones...November and December...do have the buttons.

The pickguard is interesting in that it looks like one from the 1960s. It doesn't have the nice reddish orange color many of the earliest torts feature.

For my money, if you want 10 grand for a vintage instrument and someone wants proof that requires some disassembly, get your tools. Do it one time, take some photos, put it back together, you're done.

George

(This message was last edited by edmonstg at 10:06 AM, Jan 5th, 2017)

6G6

Texas

Fender power to the people!
Jan 5th, 2017 11:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This bass has been around for a while.
I saw a simular disscussion some time back, I think on another forum.
The result of that disscussion was the same.
That is that it probably is a '59, but for that kind of money the neck would have to come off.

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