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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: Vintage (before 1985) / 66 Black Face Princeton Reverb Tube Chart

CaymanR

USA

Dec 31st, 2016 08:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am researching my wife's 1966 PR which she has owned since new in 1966. This amp is pristine and looks like the day her father bought it for her in 66. I have a question regarding the tube chart inside the amp. The chart indicates it's a "Showman" amp and has the numbers "AB763" on the chart and a rubber stamp mark "PC" which I understand is March of 1966. The amp is definitely a Princeton Reverb with all the original tubes of a Princeton Reverb but with the wrong tube chart inside. Is this unusual? I can provide pictures if it helps.

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Dec 31st, 2016 11:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Is this unusual?"

indeed


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Dec 31st, 2016 01:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds like an amp built on a Monday.

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Dec 31st, 2016 07:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not at all unusual for Fender of that period. There are more exception than rules with vintage Fenders. I've found wrong pots in amps that were factory installed 50+ years ago.

It is a novelty and I would just enjoy it :-)

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Dec 31st, 2016 08:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Simple tube chart mistake. Fender probably had a big run of Showman amps just before a run of Princeton Reverbs.

CaymanR

USA

Dec 31st, 2016 11:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How does this affect the value of this amp considering it's in as new condition.

jazzguy
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Philly, B-3 Capital

don't dream it be it
Jan 1st, 2017 09:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

doubt it'd affect the value at all.




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Jan 1st, 2017 10:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It would be less valuable if you put the correct tube chart in there. Leave it original.

Leo was notorious for changing amp circuits and components in mid-stream too. Since he was a tightwad, any savings he could squeeze by using a different spec part (or sometimes even leaving a part out) would be implemented in production with no reference to it in the published schematic.

CBS bought Fender in 1965, and it took about a year for the new corporate-think to take hold in the company.

CaymanR

USA

Jan 1st, 2017 06:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the info on this amp. I is my wife's and she has no intention of parting with it, I thought it might be as good idea to insure it with the rest of the contents of our house.

MikeyV

CA, USA

Jan 4th, 2017 04:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a date code PC Dual Showman..it does not have a Princeton tube chart!

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Jan 4th, 2017 04:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've seen many tube chart errors, especially in January-built amps having the previous year's code.

My favorite error though, is on my July 1965 Deluxe Reverb. When CBS was changing things over, production was moving so fast, that this tiny error made it through. A rare bird.

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SS2

Alexandria, Virginia

Jan 5th, 2017 02:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I've seen many tube chart errors, especially in January-built amps having the previous year's code."

The "green stamp" amps come to mind. Think those were early 1966 and came with an "AO" date code stamped with green ink.

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Jan 6th, 2017 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^
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