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Dec 29th, 2016 08:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been looking for a new true vintage spec Telecaster (7.25" radius, vintage frets) from the Custom Shop for a while now. But pretty much everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) from the 2016 production run has 9.5" radius and 6105 fret wire. So, now I'm thinking the AVRI '64 Telecaster might fix my jones. Everyone seems to list the price at $1999.

Those of you who have sprung for one of these, how low have you been able to go during negotiations? In the old days, I used to be able to get 40% off MSRP on Fender guitars and amps from my favorite dealer (then Bizarre Guitar in Reno), but I don't think that is possible now.

So what is considered a good deal on a '64 AVRI Telecaster these days?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

BobbyMac



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Dec 29th, 2016 08:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought one (Demo) from Sweetwater for $1750 or so. The Demo had more issues than I was willing to accept. When I called to return it, they offered a brand new one for the same price and paid shipping both ways. I've been a happy camper for going on 2 years now. The price then was $1999 so it hasn't changed and that is the going price almost everywhere. I would try EM Shorts but they are unlikely to have one in stock and ordering could take awhile. The AVRI 64 is a really fine guitar.

Tele when I bought it

(This message was last edited by jhawkr at 10:22 AM, Dec 29th, 2016)

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Dec 29th, 2016 08:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And a mini review of the AVRI @ 1 year.

Review-One Year

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Dec 29th, 2016 09:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice guitar. It looks like the one Mike Bloomfield used at the 1965 Newport music festival when accompanying Dylan on "Maggie's Farm."

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Mine is already beginning to yellow somewhat, especially around the edges. I keep it out so it's handy to play and that may be accelerating the aging process. The finish they put on is very thin and very much how they did it back in the day. My AVRI 64 works well with every amp and every pedal I have, (and I have a LOT!). Was just downstairs playing "Roll Over Beethoven" through my Bassbreaker 15, Soul Food, Ibanez analog delay(just cracked open) and using the Ditto so I could play leads over it. I can't say the same about more expensive Les Pauls, my SG's, Strats and other Tele's. The AVRI 64 just shines! It's no wonder Bloomfield used basically the same guitar with Butterfield, Son House and Dylan during the 65 Newport festival.

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Dec 29th, 2016 03:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

FWIW, Wildwood has Korina-body AVRI '52's for the same price--or used for $1449...

Korina Tele

(This message was last edited by Purple Valley at 05:24 PM, Dec 29th, 2016)

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Jan 1st, 2017 12:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

jhawkr
You've answered one of my questions already.... about the saddles being steel( and smaller, too).

The other question was about the bridge pup, in particular, is it a 'custom shop'?

I bought a couple of Am. bridge + pup assembly's and they said the pup was a '62 custom shop. Is yours?

P.S. Not intended to be a hijack. Just fit right in to me.

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Jan 2nd, 2017 04:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They are custom wound to 1964 specifications for the AVRI Tele. (Reverse engineered). Not at all sure you can buy them outright from the custom shop.

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Jan 2nd, 2017 07:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Malcolm

Those "62 Custom" pickups (with or without the bridge plate) that are all over eBay are not Custom Shop pickups. They are the same as those on the now discontinued double-bound AVRI 62 Custom Telecaster model.

They are visually distinguishable from the AVRI Original Vintage 52 Telecaster pickups by the white-colored windings (instead of black).

The 62 is an excellent pickup, by the way, just not from the Custom Shop.

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Jan 2nd, 2017 04:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks

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Jan 3rd, 2017 06:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fender does sell the 64 Tele pickup. It's called a "Pure Vintage". Not a Custom Shop design.

64's

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Jan 3rd, 2017 10:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

jhawkr
They're 3 wired and cloth covered wire, right?

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Jan 3rd, 2017 12:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They're cloth covered but only 2 wired.

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Jan 3rd, 2017 12:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The 64's do have the typical vintage-style cloth-covered wire.

They do not appear to have the third wire on the neck pickup for 4-way switching (like the Custom Shop Texas Special neck pup), if that is what you are asking.

Edited to add that jhawkr beat me to it. I'm a slow typist!

(This message was last edited by BobbyMac at 02:12 PM, Jan 3rd, 2017)

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Jan 3rd, 2017 03:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

BM
You are both good, as far as I'm concerned.
Did either of you change the steel barrels out?

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Jan 3rd, 2017 03:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The 3-piece threaded steel saddles on the '64 are an integral part of the sound of Telecasters in the mid-60's. For that reason, I wouldn't change them out myself. But I have other vintage style Telecasters all with different 3-piece saddle configurations (i.e. brass, steel, threaded, and grooved), so I wouldn't be tempted to change them on the 64.

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Jan 4th, 2017 04:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No way. If I wanted 3 brass saddles I'd have bought a different guitar. I like the tone of the mid 60's Tele and Strat for that matter. I have a couple other Tele's with brass saddles to scratch that itch.

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