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FDP Forum / Performer's Corner / Amp Effects loops, yes or no?

avsalesman

Australia

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Dec 24th, 2016 04:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

These days I'm more into a simpler rig, front of amp works fine for me, how about you?

reverendrob
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Dec 25th, 2016 05:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If I relied on amp gain, I'd want a loop.

But I don't.

Gaukdawg

Ohio

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Dec 25th, 2016 06:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've tried a few times to use a loop and it never worked for me. Always lots of tone lost in my opinion.

Juice Nichols
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Dec 25th, 2016 06:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like to put time based effects in the loop if the amp has one.

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Dec 25th, 2016 10:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...time based effects in the loop...."

And reverb. OD's, boost, compressor in the in front.

Delay, for one, sounds *so* much better through a loop than front loaded imo.

I have all the amps I need, but an fx loop is always a big consideration for me when shopping for one.


reverendrob
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Dec 25th, 2016 11:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Delay it depends on the amp and whether it's clean.

And the type of delay as well - I want an Echoplex or Space Echo in front of the amp, period.

Juice Nichols
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Dec 26th, 2016 09:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Agree Mick. I left reverb out because I've never used a reverb pedal.

If you want the effect to influence the input stage put in front of the amp.

MLC
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Dec 29th, 2016 01:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've only owned a couple amps that even had effects loops - and I was never all that impressed with the results when I used them.
Plus, the additional cables running back to the amp was always a pain to deal with - too messy for my OCD to handle. (:^O)

I run everything into the front now and I'm happy with the results I'm getting.

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Dec 30th, 2016 09:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I ended up running all my fx except the EQ into the front of my Peavey classic 30. If I wanted a solo boost, hitting the EQ gave me "more gain", but not "more volume". I tried everything thru the fx loop originally, but the flanger pedal boosted a bit too much when in the fx loop.
I'm unhappy to have an additional cable between the amp and pedalboard, but I'm getting the sounds I need when I need them.

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Dec 31st, 2016 05:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Uh...no. I never had a use for an effects loop in my guitar amp. I've had 2 amps with them, over the years, and I never used either of them. If I were to use an effects loop it would probably be just for reverb. Long ago I discovered that using reverb, through a guitar amp, live on stage, didn't sound good to me. It just muddied things up. Delay works much better. In the studio I would rather use the reverb in the recording equipment. It sounds so much better than through an amp and I can place it where I want to in the stereo spectrum.

Mick Reid
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Dec 31st, 2016 04:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Plus, the additional cables running back to the amp was always a pain to deal with - too messy for my OCD to handle."

I made a single cable to help with that.
I know it only eliminates 1 cable, but it does make for a tidier more manageable set up.

loop cable

Mike DeTorrice
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Feb 2nd, 2017 05:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, besides overdrives and distortion, many times I prefer, if possible, to have FX's like reverb, delay, chorus/flange/phase and additional EQ after the entire amplifier, including the power stage, especially if the power section is playing a noticeable role in the overall guitar sound (like adding some thickness or drive on it's own.)

This would call for a mixer type set-up, maybe a wet-dry-wet rig using a load box line-out or power stage tap and a final clean power amp. This might not always be practical in a typical small gig situation or for just jamming, but for practice, studio and recording it can give the clearest sound and a lot of flexibility.

gdw3

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Feb 2nd, 2017 01:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Agree with above. I'll use an fx loop if I'm using the amp's overdrive. BUT, all that extra cable can cause a lot of signal loss. I imagine that's why some of you have had less-than-great experiences.

I have a 2-channel buffer, which buffers the signal thru my pedals to the amp, and then again thru the cabling of the fx loop. Such a huge difference! You can hardly tell the difference between when I'm plugged into all my fx or straight into the amp.

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