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mroulier
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Suburban MD.

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Nov 18th, 2016 01:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So we have no money for a demo...tying to figure out if I can do this:
We have 16 channel Mackie non-powered mixer. Put the guitar amps in separate corners facing the wall to isolate their signals, same with bass amp.
Run all instruments thru to the XLR Left and right channels. (We're playing all together live! No vocals in the room!) Then run that signal to a dual XLR - USB Presonus or M -Audio interface then into Audacity on my new Windows laptop.
We'd be doing full live stereo channels via the mixer.
Record basic tracks, then go back and overdub vocals and guitar solos...

Aside from getting everyone to play the songs correctly in one take, is there anything I'm missing? :-
With any luck, drummer will have headphones so he can hear the mix and the click track from the mixer, not the computer...might have to use MON mix for that.

Juice Nichols
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Nov 20th, 2016 09:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's difficult to record a whole band live and get a good take. It can be done, but it needs to be tight. I usually record a scratch track with the whole band and then go back and overdub the individual parts. Basically recreating the song with the scratch track as your guide.

I wouldn't aim the amps at the wall. Get a couple pieces of insulation from Home Depot or similar and separate the amps with those. An SM57 or similar has very good rejection from behind with surprising little bleed. Aiming the amp at the wall could cause some phasing issues as the mic captures the amp and then the bounce back off the wall.

Are you tracking vocals live as well?

larryguitar19
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larryguitar
Nov 20th, 2016 01:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm doing the same thing a Juice suggested above. Record the scratch track and keep it simple. Then I start layering overdubs until eventually the scratch track is gone and then the replacement tracks are mixed.

mroulier
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Suburban MD.

Are your prayer beads maple or rosewood?
Nov 21st, 2016 06:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We've got Sennheiser E609's on the amps...but I see where phasing might be an issue...

"Are you tracking vocals live as well?"
Nope, no vocals or solos.

And really, I don't expect a 'perfect' recording...we just want a step up from putting a live mini recorder in the room so have SOMEthing to give to club owners.


Hammond101
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Nov 21st, 2016 10:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This can work. You will have to make a few test recordings to get the levels correct.

I'd put whoever is singing (if any) in a bathroom or bedroom with headphones to keep everything from bleeding in the vocal mic. Please do a scratch vocal even it it's not recorded. It will help keep you together recording live.

Bass bleed is the killer more than guitar bleed. Best if it is run direct and just through the headphones.

Moving blankets are great to place over a guitar amp and its mic to keep the volume down in the room.

If you are using overdrive on the guitars add just a bit more as they will sound much drier when recorded.

My 2 cents.



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