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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: 1985 - Current / DRRI vs SRRI

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NHILL1

United States

Nov 27th, 2016 01:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Will do Pcalu, but I feel fairly certain in what my choice is already. I found I can kind of "cop the feel" of a DRRI with my SRRI by keeping the treble 8, mids 8, bass 3 and bright switch off. It does the "in a tunnel" sound the deluxe does with these settings I found.

So of course I'm going to give it time but I'm fairly certain I'm going to keep the SRRI rather than the ladder. I like the way the 10 inch speakers handle the bass end and likewise the sound spread is larger at lower volumes.

One weird quality I don't understand, with the DRRI the volumes jumps FAST after 4. The SRRI doesn't hardly jump at all, it just very slowly rises. It's loud at 4, but it doesn't get awhole lot louder after that. The DRRI gets like 2-3 times louder after 4, scarly loud. The SRRI is just kind of always scary loud, but never is quite as quite as the DRRI is. Don't know why that is, but it seems to be that way.

dbluesband

USA

dbluesband
Nov 27th, 2016 09:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi NHILL1. Have you had the opportunity to play the SRRI in a live band situation? Just curious to find out if you enjoyed the SRRI in that type of musical environment? I have never owned one but have played in bands where the other guitar player and the harp player used Supers. They are LOUD but they sounded good to me. later, D.

NHILL1

United States

Nov 27th, 2016 12:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi Dbluesband, I actually just play for my enjoyment (more or less I don't know anyone else who plays). I would agree with you though, the SRRI is loud and it's sound is more directional than 12 inch speakers. Again not that I'm gigging but the super takes pedals better than my DRRI, as well has better tremolo and reverb. The deluxe "sound spread" isn't directional, so if I was standing to the side of the amp I could hear the deluxe well, but the SRRI would be kind of muffled.

There's still "gaps" I feel between both amps, the SRRI isn't as sweet as my deluxe and is directional in it's sound, and is LOUD at all times. Likewise the deluxe has almost no headroom, takes pedals poorly, and doesn't have as good of tremolo or reverb as the SRRI.

Neither one is complete, they both do specific things with the super being more flexible due to it's increased headroom.

NHILL1

United States

Nov 29th, 2016 09:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Something occurred to me that I hadn't thought could be a possible part of the equation. I've been using all JJ tubes for along time now in my DRRI, and had long forgot how my old GT's originally sounded. Apart of me is wondering if that's where the screw up happend.

So, I don't have them yet, but if I can manage to get my hands on groove tubes (at least in the preamp section) I'm going to try to see how those affect the amp. Anyways, wish me luck, I'll see how it goes!

NHILL1

United States

Dec 3rd, 2016 04:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm not sure if anyone is interested, but update regardless.

I got the Sovtek 12ax7wa's in today, and man o man, what I shame. I cannot believe I hadn't done this sooner, these tubes are SO much cleaner than the JJ's I had. The bass end definition is there, and the amp sounds REALLY good at 5. No pedals needed it really gives a great vibe.

I still think the amp is a little dark at lower volumes, but nothing like it was. Now at higher volumes the frequencies SIT RIGHT. I cannot explain how important that is to me, if I feel like I'm fighting the amp I will not be satisfied, period. That is what I was fighting for the past year, and go figure I was right. Bringing the amp back stock was the right move.

Now to continue on, I feel the amp is MUCH more relatable and comparable to the 65 SRRI. The DRRI is still darker at lower volumes, and because it's bright switch isn't as strong as the SRRI you just gotta work with what you got, but it's manageable (I also wonder if the JJ 12at7's are effecting this in some way, I'll test later).

The DRRI is more manageable volume wise, but needs about 4.5-5 to really get going. The SRRI sounds good at 4, they're both about equal volumes at that point.

Both amps have good tremolo and reverb, with slightly different tonalities. The SRRI gets a slight nod in this depeartment.

The SRRI has noticeably less overdrive, but that could be due to under-biasing. The DRRI has noticeably more drive and wins in this department.

So the winner? At this point I really don't even care. Both amps sound really good in different ways. I couldn't explain enough how much good the Sovtek's did, they really cleaned the amp up and the bass end has a wonderful feeling now.

NHILL1

United States

Dec 3rd, 2016 05:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As a bonus, I made a short demonstration between both amps.

*Bonus* Comparison

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