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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Clapton's "Clapton" Tone

urby
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Oct 14th, 2016 12:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just gave EC's first solo album "Eric Clapton" a listen to. (Slunky, Bad Boy, After Midnight... you know the one.) Always thought he had a great Strat tone on this one. He's using "Brownie" on this one, I believe. The amp is run so the sound is slightly broken up and the guitar is very quacky, trebly and up front. In your face!

Is this sound achieved through studio compression or what? Probably a smallish Fender amp? I've attempted to achieve this tone on several occasions and haven't quite gotten there.

Any help?

5Strats
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Oct 14th, 2016 02:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I believe Eric used Fender Champs or a similar small, low wattage Fender combo (cranked or nearly cranked) to achieve these sounds. He did the same thing on the Layla album.

Of course I assume he adjusted his Strat's volume knob to control the amount of gain between rhythm and solos.

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Oct 14th, 2016 02:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think had I never heard that tone before and was introduced to it now, I'd think it's crap. As it were, Brownie and Clapton's early Strat days tainted my ear at a young age. An old Strat into an old Champ, bam.

A more robust version of this is the Derek and the Dominos live album. Double bam.

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Oct 14th, 2016 02:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I guess we need to go buy a CHAMP then. (;oD

ps - I really dig my 4 watt Vox tube combo for these kinds of sounds and others. It was dirt cheap used.

MLC

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Oct 14th, 2016 02:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"A more robust version of this is the Derek and the Dominos live album. Double bam."

Yeah, little Tweed Champs in the studio and monstrous Dual Showmans on stage.

Double Bam, indeed. (;^D)

BTW, still love that first solo album of EC's.

urby
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Oct 15th, 2016 10:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've tried the Champ amp thing through a '57 Tweed Champ reissue and my buddy's original '58. Didn't come close to the sound on the record.

I've come to the conclusion that the tone in the record is due to the recording process (mics, preamps, compressors, limiters, etc...) more than anything else. You never heard that tone live, that's for sure.

Plus, the great Tom Dowd had a hand in producing this record. Guy was a genius.

There's a line in "I Don't Know Why" where Clapton sings:
"I'm just sitting here
Cry-eye-eye-eye-in'"
Sounds just the way Smokey Robinson would sing it. God, I miss those days.

littleuch
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Oct 15th, 2016 10:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dowd was also famous for juicing tape speed a smidge. That'll affect everything you hear.

stl80

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stl80
Oct 18th, 2016 03:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Solo on "Let It Rain" on the first album is my very favorite Clapton solo. I still listen to it.
Jim

myshka

Canada

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Oct 18th, 2016 06:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I remember reading years ago that Clapton liked a Princeton amp for studio work ...don't know if it could give that sound.

HenryJ

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Oct 27th, 2016 06:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I've come to the conclusion that the tone in the record is due to the recording process (mics, preamps, compressors, limiters, etc...) more than anything else. You never heard that tone live, that's for sure."

Of course. Have any of you heard the John Lennon guitar solo on "Get Back" as heard on the Love CD? It's the same solo, just sounds totally different. More edgy, less floaty-sounding.



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