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stinger22

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Aug 22nd, 2016 09:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Been noticing this and then over the past few weeks using my Taylor 314CE, E2 electronics, in a band situation plugged in. I have always played both electric and acoustic with some palm muting and/or brushing to bridge a little. The problem with my Taylor I got about a year ago is the ebony string pins squeak when my palm rubs against them. It can get bad enough that even with drums, bass and another electric guitar playing it comes through the mix. The other players actually asked what is that distortion coming through the mix!

My previous Alverez-Yari never had this.

Anyone ever had this? I ordered a set of brass end pins but really didn't like the tone I was getting from them. Yesterday I used some liquid baby powder I used to use when gigging a lot but don't really want to have to keep using it and the talc residue it leaves although it is pretty fine it is still white talc that may build up.

Any "anti-squeak" pins out there?

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Aug 22nd, 2016 12:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, Yes and yes! I do not like the Taylor E2 electronics. The way Taylor has designed three separate pickups behind the bridge makes for a guitar I cannot live with. I bought a used 2015 Taylor 612ce earlier this year. My playing style also call for saddle and bridge pin contact by my palm. Unworkable with all the squeaks and microphonic noises.

I called Taylor and without admitting it they owned up to this being a common complaint. They told me how to lower the pickup pieces a bit by loosening the allen screws that hold them in place moving each PU down about 0.020-0.025". It helped but the guitar was still not something I could live with. I ended up returning the 612ce and luckily finding a GC6e from 2011 with the ES1. ( I owned both for about a week to compare) I'm very happy with the GC6 and had enough money left from the transaction to fund a 2007 314ce with ES1 as a knock around Taylor. I'm not at all slamming the 314ce at all. It's just that with what I have invested I would not feel as badly if something where to happen to it.

Taylor did offer to reto-fit the bridge body sensor and the ES1 electronics to my ES2 equipped 612ce for about $300, cost of parts only. I elected not to have a bastardized high end Taylor and just replace it with another model, a bit older with the e-tronics that suited me.

There is a thread about this very thing on the Taylor owners Facebook page. Most people there think you and I are nuts for not liking and living with the ES2. Personally I despise it and until changes are made will not own a new Taylor however I love the guitars acoustically. In addition to the above I also own an 814ce from 2007. ES1 and nicely broken in now. Super box guitar IMO.

I don't think you will find a cure with pin replacement or lotions/powders. For me the cure was to find a suitable older model with the ES1.

I'm going into the studio tonight to work on a surf acoustic version of "The Lonely Bull". I'm going to use the GC6 for all of the rhythm parts and the 814ce for the melody.

Link below for the in and out of love story with my 2015 612ce.

Previous Tayor ES2 thread

Viera
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Aug 22nd, 2016 01:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Apparently no one at Taylor R&D palm mutes nor surfs? Pretty egregious gaff if you ask me.

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Aug 22nd, 2016 01:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rub a teensy bit of Chapstik on the rounded tops of the bridge pins. Use a little bit--just so they shine up.

If I'm recording with my 914CE, that's what I do and it makes things nice and quiet.

Viera
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Aug 22nd, 2016 02:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Taylor should at least include Chapstik with instructions in their case candy, no?

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Aug 22nd, 2016 02:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When they read this, they will :o)


And rename it something like Bridge Pin Conditioner.


And charge $12 for it when sold separately.

Viera
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Aug 22nd, 2016 03:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I live just a few miles from the Taylor factory. I'm going to head down there and present them with the "Bridge Pin Conditioner" idea. Of course I'll claim it was my idea and demand royalties. Don't worry Peegoo, I'll send you few dollars once in awhile. :-)

mirrorboy

Yorkshire, England

Aug 22nd, 2016 03:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Now everybody on the internet has read this there'll be a line round the block outside the Taylor factory.

Folks trying to solicit business for their "Dr. Peegoo's Pin Panacea".

Hammond101
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Aug 22nd, 2016 04:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Personal lubricant? Do you prefer water, silicone or ChapStik based? Cherry or menthol? Warming?

"Personally" I ain't putin' no Chapstik on a $3,500+ guitar that should not need this in the first place. Great idea however.

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Aug 22nd, 2016 07:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Viera, it's all yours, brother!

Viera
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Aug 22nd, 2016 07:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

:-)

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