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FDP Forum / Home Recording Forum / Converting MIDI files to MP3's?

tdk

Finland

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Aug 16th, 2016 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have about 200 MIDI files that I use for gigging clubs and parties but now I'm going to go busking and need to be able to play the files off of my phone.

My current MIDI file hook up is that I have a Roland midi module that play the files and I send a midi out to an external Boss drum machine for a punchier sound.

I was thinking of playing the files through my mixer and take a line out and hook it up to my computer. And record with some kind of recording software. Any ides of what software to use or am I doing something completely wrong here?

Juice Nichols
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Aug 16th, 2016 09:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Abelton can convert midi files to audio.

The way I do it in Protools is bus the midi track to a new audio track and record it in real time as the midi track plays.

tdk

Finland

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Aug 16th, 2016 10:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks JN. After a bit of testing I have abandoned the ide of recording onto my computer. I'm getting this terrible hum that I'm not sure how to get rid of.

My plan now is to use my Fostex digital multi track recorder. I'm going to record the tracks in real time to the Fostex and then move them to my computer. They will probably be wave files but I will put them into my Sony Vegas movie editing software and render them to mp3's.

I know I might be doing something harder than necessary but that is my best option at hand as far as I have figured it out right now.

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Aug 16th, 2016 12:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Re: noise in your signal chain...

If you're using a desktop computer with a detached monitor, keep signal-carrying cables as far as possible from the monitor.

Also keep your signal-carrying cables away from any wires that carry AC power, as well as any AC power supplies or wall-wart transformers.

If you must run a signal line over an AC power line, have them cross at 90 degrees to each other. That helps greatly to reject induced noise.

If you have a fluorescent light fixture anywhere near your recording setup, get rid of it.

If you have a ceiling fan overhead, turn it off.

If there's a ceiling fan in the room below your studio (it might be right under your chair, 12" from a signal line on your floor), turn it off.

JBLTWIN1

usa

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Aug 16th, 2016 04:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Also, in addition to the above, try plugging one thing in at a time and have some grounding adapters available. Sometime you have to "raise" some things above ground or actually UNGROUND them to kill hum. I had the same problem and just kept plugging things in one at a time to find the culprit and then put an adapter on it. Quiet as a church mouse now. Just don't unplug stuff and move it around or you'll have to go through it again. By the way, we call it a ground loop. Mike.

Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Aug 16th, 2016 10:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Peegoo knows all the tricks.

Your idea to go into the Fostex then the PC to convert to mp3 is a good solution. Nothing wrong with that if you don't have a proper interface that can take line-level sounds.

Tyrone Shuz

USA

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Aug 16th, 2016 10:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There should be a way to data dump your MIDI files onto your computer--you should not need to record them live. I'm sure a MIDI to USB cable would do the trick, along with your instruction manuals.

Once they are files on your computer you can import them into your DAW (I use SONAR, but there are many, and probably ALL of them can do this--)

Once you have the song imported you'll see the tracks. If you select those tracks then find an option for "bounce tracks" you can mix them as you like, and they will become a stereo audio track, and it won't be done live, just takes 30 seconds max as it converts them to audio and places them into a new stereo track which you can export as an mp3, or WAV.

iTunes can easily convert WAV to mp3 if your DAW doesn't support mp3 export. I know for SONAR I had to pay an extra $10 for the export to mp3 option, but it's a real time saver. I used to export the WAV, then import that WAV into iTunes then make the mp3 I want. Not too terrible a process, but now as soon as the tracks are bounced, I select the new stereo track and export it right to mp3.

Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Aug 16th, 2016 10:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The problem is a real .mid track is just information and not audio itself. So he needs sample sets or sample banks of some kind on his computer DAW that he can apply to each instrument. A drum set for drums, piano for piano etc. Then you can mix down. If he's using a midi module to play them, he'll need to see if he can export them as audio data. If we're actually talking .mid files though, he'll need something to play them, at least in my experience with iRealBook etc.

Juice Nichols
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Aug 17th, 2016 06:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Achase is correct. MIDI files are just 1's and zeros. Simply importing them into a DAW will only transfer the midi data and not which instrument is playing. He's trying to get away from the Roland unit so he can play his tracks from another device.

tdk

Finland

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Aug 17th, 2016 02:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think I have a solution...

The Fostex turned out to be a dead end. It would not burn CDs and I could not access it from my computer through the USB interface due to missing drivers for the new Windows version I'm using. Or something.

Anyway, I suddenly realized that my Dynacord Power Mate 600 had a digital out. Problem solved for now. I'm running the mixed audio signals digitally to my computer via USB and recording with my Sony Vegas video editing software that's great for this purpose as well.

Next thing is that I have to render to MP3's.

Tyrone Shuz

USA

I'm all in!
Aug 17th, 2016 10:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Most DAWs do have soft-synths which can be mapped, etc, and unless you're using bizarre sounds, they should be available. SONAR comes with a soft-synth, plus a drum plug-in with lots of sets, a bass plug-in as well.

But it seems he's found a solution. Nice job, TDK!

tdk

Finland

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Aug 18th, 2016 07:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, I'm doing great progress. My files mostly only contain drums, bass and sometimes a few other instruments such as piano and keys. They are straight forward CCR type songs. However, its quite tricky to find the right instruments on the file to match with your sound module and the song at hand.

BTW, I made all my files with Logic but that old PC is not working anymore so I would need a new software. Anything you guys can recommend?

Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Aug 18th, 2016 10:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Whats your main workflow or goals for the DAW? Logic is usually production oriented with lots of sounds built in. I thought it was MAC only? Cubase is a good one that has similar capabilities. Pro tools is quite expensive unless you do the month by month and cancel whenever you don't need it. It is a pretty good DAW. I personally like Reaper the best, but that's because I enjoy how you can customize it and how it seems clutter free and simple. I can do basic type productions without a lot of fiddle-faddle, or I can do complex things when it's called for.

tdk

Finland

HELP! Population less than 100 000 000!
Aug 23rd, 2016 03:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Logic was a PC based system when I purchased it. Then they offered an upgrade to the Mac version but that was totally out of my scope. I think Im gonna look into Cubase. There was a free version included in my Dynacord mixer deal. Just have to find the CD....

wborys
OldFartBassPlayerWalt

Robbinsville, NJ

what do you mean the bass is too loud?
Aug 30th, 2016 09:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you're still running hummable cables,
florescent lights in my cellar raised all kinds of humming while playing my strat in my living room.
And like was mentioned, the ballasts were maybe a
foot away from my cord, plugged into a STRAT!

STRAT: STray RAdiation Trap.

(This message was last edited by wborys at 11:43 AM, Aug 30th, 2016)

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