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El Kabong
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Aug 5th, 2016 01:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm interested in comparing:

Martin D12X1 (will reset neck under warranty if necessary. Has a dual-action truss rod adjustment.) Made in Mexico

Seagull S12 (Has a tapered headstock for easier tuning and not neck-heavy.) Made in Canada

Yamaha FG820-12 Made in China

Guild Westerly F2512 Made ???

Any recommendations? Any others I should consider. I can't find a dealer that has all of those in stock for comparison. So I Appeal to FDP members.

(This message was last edited by El Kabong at 03:26 PM, Aug 5th, 2016)

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Aug 5th, 2016 04:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought a Breedlove Pursuit 12 not too long ago. It is a very nice, good sounding, bit better than entry level, concert sized body 12 string.

While it doesn't have quite the punch of a 12 dred it hold its own acoustically with larger body instruments. It is very balance and not overly bright. Solid top, decent electronics with USB output. I really could not be happier for the money spent. It will only get better with age.

BTW, Musicians Friend has a mint one in their open box section for a very good price. $434.99 vs. $549.95 street.

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Aug 6th, 2016 03:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They're rare, and therefore hard to find, but a used Larrivee 03 (satin finish) series 12-string in their L body style should be in that price range. All solid woods and excellent build, materials and tone.

The designation for such a guitar would be L-03 12-string or L-03-12.

(This message was last edited by reverend mikey at 05:03 PM, Aug 6th, 2016)

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Aug 6th, 2016 06:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My 2001 Seagull is a beloved instrument to this day.

2001 Seagull S12 Cedar

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numb, yes...comfortable? Not so much
Aug 6th, 2016 06:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like my Seagull S12. It's certainly not in the class of a Guild, but neither was the price. I tried Fender & Yamaha 12's before buying the Seagull. To me it just sounded way better than the others

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larryguitar
Aug 6th, 2016 08:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Taylor 150/12 is not bad.

I've got an Alvarez Yairi and Ric Electric and been playing 12 string for more than 30 years.

The Taylor surprised me with the bang for buck. Very playable and plugs into a mixer/PA nicely. If you perform live you will want the Fishman Tonedeq for EQ/Delay/Chorus.

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Aug 6th, 2016 09:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've always been impressed with Seagull 12s.

Tony Salieri

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Aug 9th, 2016 08:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Seagull S12 is an excellent guitar. My wife has an early one, called the Model 12, from the early '80s, and a later S12 (I'd need to research the year) The one thing that might not appeal to some players is the cedar top.

She's had good luck with Alvarez 12s, both are jumbos made in Korea. An AJ60 (solid spruce top, laminated maple b&s) and a PJ85 (solid spruce top, solid RW back, laminated RW sides). Note--The model numbers have changed. If SLM has maintained their top notch QC at the Chinese factory, and still does a good set-up before shipping the guitars, Alvarez shouldbe worth a try.

El Kabong
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Aug 10th, 2016 02:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah. Cedar dents easily. T hat is the only thing that turns me off about the S12. Great guitar for not much wampum, tho.

El Kabong
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Aug 10th, 2016 02:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you could get an S12 with a solid spruce top, I'd be right on it.

El Kabong
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Aug 11th, 2016 06:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Seagull makes a very plain looking Walnut 12 string that has a spruce top. Anyone here know how good it is?

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Aug 13th, 2016 09:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've read several great reviews for that Taylor 150. Here's one. If I was in the market for an inexpensive one, doesn't look like you could go wrong with it.

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Tony Salieri

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Aug 13th, 2016 12:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Seagull makes a very plain looking Walnut 12 string that has a spruce top. Anyone here know how good it is?"

I haven't seen or heard one, but if it matches the sound quality of the S12 with a crisper Spruce top sound, you couldn't really go wrong. The S12 has the distinct 12s sound, but without the jumbled notes bouncing around eveywhere I hear in many inexpensive 12s guitars.

tuninguitars

Indiana

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Aug 14th, 2016 02:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Epiphone masterbuilt sounds
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JuiceDaddy

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Aug 15th, 2016 07:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Another vote for the Taylor 150e. I don't think you can find a better 12 string at that price point.

El Kabong

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Aug 15th, 2016 11:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think you can. Yamaha LL16-12 sounds better to my ear. plays wonderfully as well. Solid Engelmann spruce and solid rosewood. gloss finish. with case. $799 street.

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Aug 20th, 2016 05:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I played one of the walnut S-12s recently and loved it. Very clear sound and the neck was very easy to play. I have an older S-6 and would say that the 12s neck profile was much better.

El Kabong
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Aug 23rd, 2016 02:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm leaning toward the Yamaha LL16-12. Sounds great. Solid torrefied Engelmann spruce top with maple binding, Abalone rosette, solid Indian Rosewood back & sides, Ebony fretboard and bridge, bound fretboard and headstock, gloss finish, includes case.

Yes it is made in China, but Yamaha sets up their own factory and their Japanese luthiers train the guitar builders.

The only thing I don't like is the stock strings, and the plastic saddle and nut and bridge pins; I will change those to bone and ebony. Also, I don't know who makes the tuning machines, or how good they are; I might want to change those as well.

It usually sells for $899, but I've seen it for $799.

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Aug 25th, 2016 02:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

^^ very good choice -- I've got an LL16M which is solid, beautifully built, and a great value.

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Sep 17th, 2016 03:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tried a Taylor 150 ($750) vs Martin GCP12PA4 ($1700) today. The Taylor had more volume, better tone, and easy to play right out of the box. The Martin sounded dull and would have needed a good setup. Did not plug them in. Taylor comes with a nice gig bag, Martin comes with hard case. I'd like to test both against the Taylor 360.

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