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FDP Forum / Amp Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Considering replacing Blues Deluxe cabinet with pine to save weight

Coral Head

Sunshine State

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Aug 3rd, 2016 10:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi All,

I have an original Blues Deluxe and a bad back. I am considering buying one of the ready-made pine cabinets and swapping the amp into it to save weight. I think the existing cabinet is made of fiberboard but it's painted and it's hard to be certain. The speaker baffle looks like plywood. The question is, how much weight would I save? The available pine cabinet makers talk about considerable weight savings but I haven't seen any numbers. Are we talking 2 lbs or 8 lbs? Is it worth it, in other words?

Thanks for any help!

Colin

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Aug 3rd, 2016 11:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd think 5-6 lbs would be the average. You'd have to ask a vendor how much their cab weighs, & strip yours and weigh it to see if there is enough savings to help you out. Not all pine is created equal. Weight savings may very from cab build to cab build. A neo speaker could help too if you haven't yet been down that road.

Faced with your problem I'd probably sell my tube amp(s) and go with a Quilter SS amp for real savings in weight and very little compromise in tone.

You could also do a split. Head cab and speaker cab so each would weigh less and be easier to lift/load. I did this with my '75 Twin Reverb. Very handy.

Quilters are also available in head/cab versions. Other brands too.

The baffle in the HRD I own is a particle board of some type. Good birch ply would not save much here I think.

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Aug 4th, 2016 05:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Most of the weight is in the transformers. 3/4" pine will save a few pounds over the MDF they used, but 40 lbs is not much lighter that 45 lbs when you have a bad back.

Another option is the Mustang III combo. It gets really close to classic Fender tones, it's loud, and it's totally portable.

champster
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Oceanside, CA

Aug 4th, 2016 08:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's part of the reason I use my PRRI and the heavy amps stay at home.

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Merrill, Wisconsin

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Aug 11th, 2016 10:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Pine cabinet AND a neo speaker would go a long way. My stepson is a jazz guitar player in the Marines. He uses a Mesa combo, but hated the weight. I replaced the speaker with a Jensen neo and he's a happy camper. The original EV was a LOT heavier. He actually even prefers the tone of the Jensen whether it be with the Jazz, big band or rock band.

Coral Head

Sunshine State

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Aug 12th, 2016 04:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So far....I replaced the speaker with a neodymium and have a pine cabinet on order. I really like the tone I am getting with the Blues Deluxe and don't want to start over in that department. I am thinking that it will not be much heavier than a Mustang III when finished (36lb). Also I don't want an amp with 20 presets and 100 sounds.....spend all my time fiddling with it instead of playing.

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Aug 24th, 2016 07:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hope that your BDx's diet is successful. I'm considering something similar for my DRRI--at least changing the speaker to a Li'l Texas.

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Aug 24th, 2016 07:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hope that your BDx's diet is successful. I'm considering something similar for my DRRI--at least changing the speaker to a Li'l Texas.

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Aug 24th, 2016 07:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hope that your BDx's diet is successful. I'm considering something similar for my DRRI--at least changing the speaker to a Li'l Texas.

1958Bassman

USA

Sep 9th, 2016 07:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

MDF weighs around 105lb for a sheet (typical dimensions are 49" x 97" and that's so the saw kerf in either direction won't leave large pieces that are just short of what's needed when building cabinets), so you can ballpark the amount needed for your cabinet. If it's 1/8 of a sheet, the weight difference won't be sufficient to justify this change, IMO.

Coral Head

Sunshine State

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Sep 12th, 2016 08:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The results:

I swapped the speaker out for a Li'l Texas and bought a pine cabinet from Carl's Custom cabinets for my original Blues Deluxe.

The amp is now 36lb on my digital bathroom scale with footswitch and cable included. The cabinet is 8lb less than the original and the speaker 3 -4 so from about 47 lbs to 36.....a worthwhile difference.

Not a cheap upgrade but I think it is money well spent.

catnineblue

LA , Calif

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Sep 27th, 2016 03:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a 71 fender music master bass amp and a 73 the . The 71 was pine yet the baffle was particle board the 73 was all particle board and empty the 73 was much heavier. Plus pine is more tone full IMHO. I had a 94 Blues deluxe and it was very heavy. Plus the speaker choice ad's weight.

Coral Head

Sunshine State

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Sep 27th, 2016 07:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was able to sell the original particle board cabinet on Ebay for $150 so that offset a lot of the cost of the new cab and speaker. I will be cranking it up to gig volume for the first time on Thursday so will be able to tell if it sounds any different. At bedroom volumes, it's hard to tell.

I am surprised that particle board came into play between 71 and 73! My Blues Deluxe is a 1995 or so.

brownface

usa

Oct 5th, 2016 12:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very cool results, worthwhile!

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