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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Stratocasters / Unusual CIJ Strat -ST70- Anyone seen these before?



Jul 25th, 2016 03:37 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hi All, I'm new here and wondering, has anyone seen one of these before? (see link)
I've just bought one EXACTLY like this here in Australia (though a lot cheaper). Mine was advertised as a 2002-2004 based on its CIJ Q+6 digit serial, and I assumed it was a 62RI because of the headstock, logo & truss-rod combination. I figured it had just been re-finished back to natural. But now I've seen this one for sale in the UK I'm confused... If we assume the strat in the link isn't a fake, I'm wondering why I can't find reference to this model (or the same colour/neck combo) in any 1993/94 or 2002-04 Fender Japan catalogs?
FWIW, the one I just bought (which I haven't received yet) has a serial number very close to the eBay listed one, plus the same h/ware, scratch plate, neck profile, neck plate, body timber and style of CIJ/SN font.
The neck and body stamps on mine aren't any help- just "4-13" on the neck base and in one of the pickup cavities...and nothing stamped on the neck pocket. The body routing looks legit' CIJ though.
So basically, I'm wondering if I just bought one of the mysterious pre-1997 CIJ's, or if this eBay listing has the wrong date, or (shudder) are they both imposters? Has anyone here ever heard of a CIJ (or MIJ) ST70 strat?
Any info or insights much appreciated.

"ST70" CIJ Strat

(This message was last edited by Shinbones at 05:45 AM, Jul 25th, 2016)



Jul 25th, 2016 03:50 AM   Edit   Profile  

Hmmm... can't seem to get the link to work (and I have read the FAQ). If you're interested, search ebay for "FENDER CIJ 93/94 STRATOCASTER,ST-70", it should be the only hit you get. It's listed for GBP749.99.

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Jul 25th, 2016 07:11 AM   Edit   Profile  

The link works for me. I don't recall seeing this model of MIJ Strat before, but it looks nice.

I'm not a fan of ash bodies, but that's just a matter of personal taste. I own one Strat with an ash body and it has a very bright tone.

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United States

Jul 26th, 2016 11:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

The link is weird. I don't see any close-ups of the front of the headstock. I am also unaware of satin bodies being much of a thing before the Highway 1s in 2003.

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Santee CA

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Jul 26th, 2016 11:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've never heard of this model but I like this one, assuming that it is in fact authentic.


Yorkshire, England

Aug 4th, 2016 12:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

The wood looks like Sen (Japanese Ash).

4-13 code, and neck and cavity placement strongly suggests Tokai Gakki manufacture.


Northern VA

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Aug 5th, 2016 06:34 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've seen Tokai's with ST-70 as a model number. They're very uncommon and aren't a 62ri style. They have a "ungraded" style bridge like Fender used right before CBS sold the company....can't remember what the style of that bridge was called, but it's not the Freeflyte. The "Strat" had a similar style if I'm remembering correctly.
I don't think the paper with ST-70 is related to the guitar. I'm viewing them on my phone, but I can't see anything that says Fender on it in the pictures on -that- piece of paper.
Anyone read Japanese?


Northern VA

"Mongo only pawn in game of life"
Aug 5th, 2016 06:37 PM   Edit   Profile  

Here's one that sold

on Reverb

(This message was last edited by daveg at 08:38 PM, Aug 5th, 2016)

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Aug 5th, 2016 08:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

ST is the designation of a Fender Japan Strat.

70 refers to a price of approximately 70,000 yen new.

Sometimes there is another two digit number before the 70 for vintage reissues; ie ST 62-70.

I suspect that an ST70 Strat would be a standard model in the 70,000 price bracket.

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