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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: Vintage (before 1985) / Fender Amp Trifecta Part 1 - pick your poison

Doc Sarvis
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Tuned Strings and Tight Lines
Jul 3rd, 2016 05:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Given these three incarnations: narrow panel tweed, brownface, and blackface reverb, which model line: princeton, deluxe, or super/VR would you choose to own to the bitter end and why?



BbendFender
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American Patriot

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Jul 4th, 2016 06:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Blackface Deluxe Reverb. Why? Because I've owned one before and it is a great amp.

I have also owned a narrow panel tweed and a brownface Fender.

keithb7

Canada, Kamloops

Vintage Amp Hoarder
Jul 4th, 2016 11:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Brown face Deluxe. Reason? I read great things about them. I have never owned one but do have tweed and BF amps mentioned. I love them all. Just wondering about that 6G3 Deluxe. Would love to own one.

carsten

on the rhine

Jul 5th, 2016 05:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi!

I´ve have/had all three Deluxes (the Tweed was a Reissue, though), and my No. 1 would be the bf Deluxe Reverb.

Why? It can do most of what the others do - and it has REVERB ;-)

I´d favor the Tweed Deluxe over the brown, as it sounds more pleasing to me.
The brown Deluxe has a rather brash/middy voice - just not as "sweet" as the others...
But - it probably has THE BEST OD-tone I´ve ever heard from a Fender amp!

cheers - C.

guitarcapo

U.S.A.

Jul 5th, 2016 01:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Blackface Deluxe Reverb.

The reverb is great. The clean tones are great. The overdrive sounds are good. It takes pedals great.

You get 2 channels AND a 12" speaker which trumps a Princeton...which has less headroom/ not giggable and other than that sounds like a DR.

Super Reverbs are too heavy and boomy...and you don't get as much natural overdrive without a pedal. You can get more mileage playing out by just adding a mic to the PA if you need more headroom than dealing with all the baggage of a Super Reverb.

Tweeds and brownfaces overdrive better but don't have the shimmering cleans. And you can make a DR sound like a tweed Deluxe with the right pedal a lot easier than making a tweed Deluxe sound like a DR with a pedal.


keithb7

Canada, Kamloops

Vintage Amp Hoarder
Jul 5th, 2016 08:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It should be mentioned that the Vibrolux Reverb is an amazing 6L6 based amp. 2x10, 35W, not too heavy. Tone to die for. Awesome reverb and vibrato. I have a 1971 that I got for pretty much a song. All stock. What an amp! I would choose it over the Brown Deluxe that I picked above, except I already own one. LOL.

TheProfessor
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Jul 5th, 2016 08:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

From experience, the tweed Vibrolux and the BF Vibrolux Reverb are both fantastic amps, but at 1x10 6V6 and 2x10 6L6 with reverb, respectively, it's hard to see the family lineage.

Currently, the tweed is the one I'd grab in a fire, but that could easily change with one listen to Roy Buchanan's "Livestock."

Dakota Red

USA southwest

luck is the residue of desire
Jul 5th, 2016 09:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I still retain a brown Princeton which I'm quite fond of as a small-but-mighty amp. I also retain my Elec Intsr BF Dlx Reverb since it's so versatile. I owned/gigged with for many years a brown Deluxe, a fine amp. Still have a coupla other amps [incl BF/Elec Instr Vibroverb] but if forced to pick "just one" the Dlx Rvrb would clearly be it.

BbendFender
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Jul 5th, 2016 09:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Along with my Deluxe Reverb, I have 3 SF Princeton Reverbs. The PR's are great amps and should play any gig I play. I have owned 2 Vibrolux Reverbs in the past but sold them for some crazy reason.
Fender just made some great amps in the 60's.

Doc Sarvis
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Tuned Strings and Tight Lines
Jul 5th, 2016 09:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Okay there are some great answers here but maybe I didn't phrase the question properly so think of it this way:

You get to own three amps of the same model from the three periods allowed:

Princeton Tweed, Brown, BFR
Deluxe Tweed, Brown, BFR
Super Tweed, Brown, BFVR

Which row do you want most?

keithb7

Canada, Kamloops

Vintage Amp Hoarder
Jul 5th, 2016 10:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Super Duper line up for me. No wait...The Deluxe line has the 6G3 I want. Darn it. I need to commit to 6 amps here to get the ones I really want. Brown Deluxe, Super Tweed and Brown Super. I broke the rules here but it is fun to dream.

(This message was last edited by keithb7 at 12:34 AM, Jul 6th, 2016)

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Jul 5th, 2016 10:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What does Trifecta mean?

Any healthy amp, Fender or otherwise, will do what is expected of it.



carsten

on the rhine

Jul 6th, 2016 12:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi!

Easy choice - the Deluxe-line ;-)


cheers - C.

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Jul 6th, 2016 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Supers tweed/brown and BFVR for me.

Trifecta is a horse racing term. It would be betting the win, place and show, 1st, 2ne & 3rd place finishers in the correct order. A box trifecta would be a bet to pick the three top finishers in any order.

It's a lot easier to bet on a vintage Fender than a nag.

Doc Sarvis
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Tuned Strings and Tight Lines
Jul 7th, 2016 02:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The bedroom and studio players in me want the Princetons.
The occasional gigger in me wants the Deluxes.
The serious gigger in me wants the extra power and the 2x10s over a single 10" or 12" speaker.

The bedroom player I am needs to figure out which player he wants to be. This is a tough question for me. I own all of these amps except for the Tweed Super which I will have shortly. Ultimately I will need to sell some of the gear to bridge healthcare costs between retirement and medicare eligibility (it's really just a need to downsize to three of the nine).

MLC
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Jul 12th, 2016 02:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Deluxe Reverb, although in my case it's a '68 so it's Silver- as opposed to Black- face (still a BF circuit, though).

Why?
I own one and can't imagine ever parting with it, no matter what other amp(s) I might own. It covers everything from home to practice to stage and sounds great with every guitar I own.

I've never understood the criticism that a DR sounds "thin" at lower volumes. As you turn the volume down, bring up the bass (or turn down the treble) - problem solved.
And I've owned a BF VibroChamp (that "classic bedroom" amp) and that little thing never sounded fatter than my DR set at lower volumes. Never sounded as good, either....not even close.

I also own a Tweed Deluxe clone (Mission 5E3). As much as I love that amp, it's just not as versatile as the DR. Though I do love a nice "tweed clean" tone.

I'm very happy that the reality is that I DON'T have to choose between the two. But in the choose-only-one exercise, it'd be the DR.


deluxeampuser

USA

Sep 2nd, 2016 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would go with the Deluxe line.

Actually, I more-or-less already have, although not to your exact specs:

1954 5D3 (wide panel)
1962 6G3
1969 AB868 (dripedge silverface. Not a BF but close)

super mario
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tone to the bone no other way
Sep 8th, 2016 01:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I must be a "Princeton" person as I own a Jan'64 Black Face White Knob Princeton that has the 6G3 circuit and a Dec'64 Black Face Princeton Reverb so that covers the "brown" and "BFR" eras....just need a tweed Princeton and I will be set. Of course there is the '76 SF Deluxe Reverb that I love as well....

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