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FDP Forum / Fender Bass Guitars and Bass Amps / Fender Precision 58 Olympic White on Ebay

Arild

Norway

Jun 27th, 2016 04:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This one must be pretty rare?

Photo

uncle stack-knob
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united kingdom

Jun 28th, 2016 12:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looks good but pics tell not a lot.
Certainly re-fretted,looking at the size of the frets.
Can't be sure about the pickguard either.
I keep thinking that the guard is a re-issue maybe.Little or no evidence of lacquer on the guard,and no real signs of wear commonly found.
Still,that doesn't mean anything until you could take a closer look.

Stack-Knob

this one?

6G6

Texas

Fender power to the people!
Jun 28th, 2016 07:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not many pics or much information for someone wanting 10K.
I agree that the PG looks a little too clean, but then again , the finish isn't worn around it either.
Maybe it spent a lot of time in it's case, under a bed?

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Chico CA

If you rest, you rust.
Jun 28th, 2016 09:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Fender Precision base 4 string"...

That alone makes me suspicious!

Arild

Norway

Jun 28th, 2016 10:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I dont think the poles on the A string are raised?

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jun 29th, 2016 05:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been watching this bass for the past few days and also working with the seller to help establish just exactly what he has. I first got involved when I noticed his original ad dated the bass a 1956. I sent him an e-mail saying the bass could not be a 56 because Fender didn't introduce the split-coil Precision bass until the NAMM show in Chicago in July 1957. I also suggested that because I thought from his pictures the bass was probably an Olympic White over alder, it was a 58 or 59, and also suggested he pull the neck and look for the penciled date on the butt end. He did. It's a 58, a later one I am going to presume because the pickups are flush and not raised-A. Also the earliest split-coil pickups have beveled pole pieces and these are not. As Arild has already stated, if this bass is as genuine/original as it seems to be, it is an ultra rare example of a gold guard. The rare piece of this is that the majority of the white 57-59 basses Fender made were see-through blonde over ash, as in the early years of the 1950s, the planks. USK is correct in his assessment that it is a re-fret.

(This message was last edited by edmonstg at 07:28 PM, Jun 29th, 2016)

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jun 29th, 2016 05:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Like USK says, the pictures supplied with the auction are weak, although there is enough here IMHO to motivate a person to want to look deep at the features and appointments to determine what is original and what is not. The seller told me he has taken the bass to Norm Harris at Norm's Rare Guitars and also to the "Vintage Center" (not sure if this is the right name) at one of the big Guitar Centers in Los Angeles, with both locations verifying this bass to be a 58 with mostly original parts.

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Chico CA

If you rest, you rust.
Jun 29th, 2016 09:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh man am I glad to read this! I've missed these types of "instrument dissections" over the past couple of years.

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Jun 29th, 2016 12:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looking down on the body/pickguard shot taken from above it,am I right? do the holes in the guard for the pickup chrome cover NOT line up with what looks like the holes in the body?

Stack-Knob.

(This message was last edited by uncle stack-knob at 02:29 PM, Jun 29th, 2016)

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jun 29th, 2016 01:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's hard to see what's going on with the hole on the E-string side. On the G-string side, the hole does not line up, which raises the question of did the pickguard in the photo leave the factory with the body in the photo? Or...do bodies experience that much shrinkage?

George

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jun 29th, 2016 05:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just heard from the owner who took it to Norm's Rare Guitars. Norm said refin. Norm had it in his hands, ready with tools to look under the hood for the tell-tale signs, for the things you often can't see with photos, especially poor quality photos of the kind we had to work with.

I'm disappointed, but not as much as the guy who's trying to sell it.

A lesson for all of us. Be careful with photos.

George

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jun 30th, 2016 07:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Another e-mail from the owner, who I have been working with the last couple of days to help him understand the finer points of his bass.

Now apparently, the body has the original paint but someone put more paint on top of it. Ouch!

Also the pickguard is a replacement, which would explain USK's observation about the holes on the gold guard for the pickup cover not lining up with the same holes in the body.

By the way, I have absolutely no affiliation with the seller of this bass. I don't even know his real name because he's never told me and I've never asked.

George

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jun 30th, 2016 09:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This bass is starting to give me the dizzies. I'm done. Geo

rwb
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Jul 12th, 2016 10:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Love the detective work! And that seller hopefully is grateful for your kind assistance, George.

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jul 12th, 2016 01:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Grateful? I suppose, although I told him he has a bass with serious issues and not worth anywhere near what he's asking and yet he stays right up there with the high dollars.

Proves at least this much: there are no laws against dreaming.

George

(This message was last edited by edmonstg at 03:04 PM, Jul 12th, 2016)

Danny Nader

usa

You should have been there!
Jul 12th, 2016 04:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

George,

Dreams for some, nightmares for others!

Danny

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jul 12th, 2016 06:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well said.

Geo

6G6

Texas

Fender power to the people!
Jul 12th, 2016 11:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sure, he can insist on his dream price.
He may find many that disagree.
He only has to find one that agrees.

edmonstg

Newberg, Oregon

Fender...never say never.
Jul 13th, 2016 07:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

6G: You nailed it!

Geo

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