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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: 1985 - Current / Does anyone have any information on the 2009 era Fender Deluxe VM?

bananasushi

Canada

Jun 20th, 2016 01:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hello, my main question is, what fender amp, if any, is the Fender deluxe VM amp based on? I have considered buying this amp, but I have come across the'Fender Super Champ X2.'
I am now thinking of buying the head and SC112 extension cabinet of the Super Champ X2
Can anyone give me any advice on this decision?
I'm looking for a quieter, budget, bedroom amp. So no princeton reverb at over $1000.
It's nice to have 16 different amp models, but I guess at the end of the day, all I want is one good fender amp and one good Vox amp. I'm thinking of getting a Vox AC10, and for a fender, the super champ X2. Both are under $1000.
I have heard of the Vibro Champ but maybe at 5W, it doesn't sound good enough. These amps will basically be with me for the rest of my life. So I just want to buy one good fender amp with a good classic fender tone. The super champ x2 would cost me $670 where I live. But if anyone has any suggestions on an alternative competing fender amp, I am open to hear options.
Thank you very much.


RufusTeleStrat

San Diego

Land of Sea, home of the Waves
Jun 20th, 2016 10:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is everthing I know about that amp.
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Fender's solution is a PDF owners manual

carsten

on the rhine

Jun 20th, 2016 11:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi bananasushi!

Not sure if I can be of any help, but $670 sounds WAY high for a Super Champ XD..
These usually fall in the "cheap amp"-range at around $300 (+/-) used...

The Deluxe and Bandmaster VM were new designs with a solid-state (digital?) front-end and a tube-power-amp, very much like the Super Champ XD, but with a whooping 40 Watts!
They were the same amps, but the Deluxe came as a 1x12" combo, and the Bandmaster came as a head w/2 x 12" cabinet.

I had the Bandmaster-head for a short time, and while it didn´t sound bad, I didn´t keep it very long...

In short - you should be able to get a nice Vox AC 15 AND a nice Fender-Tube-Amp (like a Blues Junior, perhaps) for well under $1000.

Otoh, if these amps are to stay for life, I´d get a used AC 15 and save up for a Princeton Reverb ;-)

cheers - C.





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Jun 20th, 2016 08:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a SC X2 and like it a lot for grab and go. Channel switching and some built in effects. I think it sounds good.

bananasushi

Canada

Jun 21st, 2016 12:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well I live in Canada where everything costs more, but the value of the dollar is different from the united states. I was referring to the head and cabinet.
The head costs $400 and the cabinet costs $370.
I haven't seen any used ones around.

bananasushi

Canada

Jun 21st, 2016 12:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

sorry, I meant the head costs $400 and the cab costs $270

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Jun 21st, 2016 08:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The amp head is larger than the speaker cab you're looking at, so if that matters to you (parking a large head atop a smaller cab), it may influence your decision.

If you're looking for a "bedroom amp" like you stated, 40 watts is ridiculously overpowered.

The SCX2 is ideal as a bedroom amp, because unlike the Princeton, you can get nice 'cranked amp' tone and response at really low levels due to the digital modeling in the front end of the amp. The onboard effects are very good.

And don't let the small size of the SCX2 fool you; it can get ear-splitting loud. I gigged with the earlier version (SCXD) and it worked great.



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Jun 22nd, 2016 05:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Bandmaster VM as well as an older SCXD.

Bought used for $225, fitted into a custom cabinet with a 12" speaker, all told, my "SCXD-12" cost me about $450. I suppose I could've just swapped in an aftermarket 10" speaker for much less but I wanted the 12" and had the cash. The SCXD has some good Fender tones for cheaper than a reissue.

I use my VM for gigging and it sounds good with my Tele, the clean channel can get spanky, but I can't say it totally replicates a blackface Fender tone. I have more control over the onboard effects on the VM than the SCXD and I like the simplicity of one overdrive channel, but 40 watts is overkill for home practice unless you have the space to crank it.

(This message was last edited by swampyankee at 07:54 AM, Jun 23rd, 2016)

tahitijack

San Clemente, CA

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Jun 30th, 2016 11:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Deluxe VM, don't recall the year, but probably within the past two or three years. To me its similar to the Deluxe Reverb with some added features. Others may disagree. I use it as my gig amp with just the four button footswitch, tuner and volume. I tend to play clean with a touch of 'verb and can add drive, delay and chorus for the few songs that require a little effects. At 40 watts it will keep up with the other guitarist that plays through a Cyber-Twin. Love this amp. Hope this is helpful.

(This message was last edited by tahitijack at 01:12 PM, Jun 30th, 2016)

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Jun 30th, 2016 11:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The SCX2 is ideal as a bedroom amp, because unlike the Princeton, you can get nice 'cranked amp' tone and response at really low levels due to the digital modeling in the front end of the amp. The onboard effects are very good.
And don't let the small size of the SCX2 fool you; it can get ear-splitting loud. I gigged with the earlier version (SCXD) and it worked great."

Same experience here. Also, the amp has a line out. For fun I run a cord from the line out to another amp across the room, thru a delay and chorus pedal. The semi-stereo sounds great!

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