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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: Vintage (before 1985) / '59 Fender Bassman - the ultimate secret weapon!

theotherkind

Kentucky, USA

Jun 14th, 2016 11:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There's a show on cable called "Rock & Roll Road Trip with Sammy Hagar." Recently they went to a musical instrument museum in Phoenix. Sammy got all excited when he saw a '59 Bassman on display and started talking about how Ronnie Montrose and a lot of other guys in the late 60s and 70s secretly used a tweed Bassman in the studio and only used Marshalls on the road, not only because there were no good overdrive pedals but because they sounded so great.
So that's where all those Bassman amps went, and why they're so highly coveted! I bet many if not most of those great classic rock tones are actually a cranked Bassman!
The 5F6-A is my overall favorite amp. I wouldn't sell my '59 for any amount of money (unless it was enough to buy several more).

Hammond101
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So. Cal. USA

Jun 14th, 2016 01:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Great amp with a great history of players.

I'm partial to the 5E8-A low power tweed Twin myself. Not quite as loud but with 2-12s it's a bit smoother than a Bassman. I could not afford to buy an original in decent condition so I built a clone. My #1 for electric gigs.

BTW, I've been to Musical Instrument Museum in Phoenix. It's a great place with everything imaginable in it. It's an all day event for a musician.

theotherkind

Kentucky, USA

Jun 20th, 2016 01:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've not yet had the chance to play through a Tweed Twin. I'm afraid of what would happen if I did ($$$)!

Hammond101
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So. Cal. USA

Jun 20th, 2016 05:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got a real deal on a vintage cab on CL. That is what started the Twin build. The '58 Jenson P12R speakers (badged as Motorola) really help it along as well.

BbendFender
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American Patriot

I'm on guard these days.
Jun 20th, 2016 06:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm going to be working on an old Bassman cabinet that was in a fire. Surprisingly, the actual cabinet came out of the fire in pretty good shape. The original tweed was under the cream tolex. I carefully removed the covering but the tweed is ruined. Hopefully, I can salvage the cabinet. Another guy got to it before my friend and I saw it and he took his foot and kicked the 4 old speakers out and off of the baffle board and yanked the chassis out of the cabinet and damaged the cabinet some. I will have to build a new baffle but I can do that easily.

BbendFender
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American Patriot

I'm on guard these days.
Jun 20th, 2016 06:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

double post.

(This message was last edited by BbendFender at 11:00 PM, Jun 20th, 2016)

MLC
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It's not just good..

...it's good enough.
Jun 21st, 2016 05:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a really nice Bassman RI a few years back. This was before I started gigging again and I ended up selling it because it was just way more amp than I needed at the time.
Now that I'm back to doing regular gigs, I really miss that amp.

Of course, every time I read about Hammond101's Tweed Twin, I feel the tweed GAS building. (;^D)
If I ever do a another amp build, that's the one I'm going after.

theotherkind

Kentucky, USA

Jun 22nd, 2016 07:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For years I thought the ultimate Les Paul/Marshall tone was Mick Taylor on "Hartley Quits," a song from John Mayall's Bare Wires album. I've just read an old interview with Mick where he says he was playing through a Bassman!
Well there goes another one....

SoK66
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We had the hit but Van got the money
Jun 28th, 2016 07:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Seems the 5F6-A Bassman the bedrock for many great amp designs. We stumbled upon a few of them back in the mid-60s and snapped them up for studio amps. I found a pristine, non working 5E6 and stashed it away. Needed a filter cap and it was good to go. Another one I shoulda kep.

I'm with Hammond, couldn't swing an original and didn't want to lose a bundle on a new tweed Twin reissue, so I built a 5E8-A clone using a blend of Mojo & Weber bits, plus components on hand. About an hour of fiddling with it and I fell in love. Caused a sell-off of quite a few amps. Still need to find some Weber alnicos for it, but the current Weber ceramics that I had on the shelf seem to be rather sweet as is.

5E8-A clone guts

Hammond101
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So. Cal. USA

Jun 28th, 2016 11:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Caused a sell-off of quite a few amps."

'67 Pro Reverb, '67 Super Reverb, '70 Twin Reverb.
All gone now. There may have been others, I just don't remember. A Bandmaster or two I guess. It's a great amp plus I get much more satisfaction playing something a built with my own two hands.

I enjoy seeing SoK66's Twin, Very tidy work!

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Sunshine State

Just a pawn in someone else's game
Jun 28th, 2016 05:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yes...very nice n tidy.....

I'm an alnico fan...good luck with your search...

Charlie Macon
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Austin, Texas

Yeeeehaaaa!
Jun 29th, 2016 02:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"For years I thought the ultimate Les Paul/Marshall tone was Mick Taylor on "Hartley Quits," a song from John Mayall's Bare Wires album"

I love Mick Taylor's playing, so I just HAD to hear this.....Hoooweee!

"Hartley Quits"

Steve Dallman
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Merrill, Wisconsin

Age is just a number...mine is big
Jul 2nd, 2016 08:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

FWIW, When Ronnie Montrose gigged with the Edgar Winter Group, he used an Ampeg SVT into a 4X12 with Electro Voice EV SRO speakers (with the "coffee can" magnets). He ran the SVT volume at 1 o'clock and the first several rows in the audience were blasted.

I used an SVT head into 15" EV SRO's for bass in the 70's and never had the volume over 9 o'clock.

theotherkind

Kentucky, USA

Jul 7th, 2016 02:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good stuff, eh Charlie? And from a teenager! Steve, I bet that Ampeg did hurt the audience, unless they were too stoned to be bothered by the volume!

SoK66
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USA

We had the hit but Van got the money
Jul 14th, 2016 08:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

" I enjoy seeing SoK66's Twin, Very tidy work!"

Thanks Hammond!

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