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greg1948
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Jun 10th, 2016 06:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After quitting a band whose music was just not my style, I decided to put together an oldies/surf rock band of my own. Put an ad on CL and got interest from 2 other guitar players and a good drummer.

So with me on guitar we have three on 6 string, 0 on bass. The obvious thought was that one of us should play bass. Would have worked except that me and one of the guys are lead singer and neither of us can sing and play bass. The third guy is the really hot lead player, so he doesn't want to play bass either.

So we've started working out songs with all three of us on guitar. The lead player does fills and some solos, the other guy does rhythm and some fills, and I fill in the spaces with arpeggios and get to do some soloing.

The lead player uses a strat with amp settings that give him a higher end tone. I use my Gretsch 5120 for more mid-range tones. The rhythm guy uses a Kramer and we're still working where he fits sonically.

It's going to be interesting to see if we can keep the beasts controlled so as not to be competing with each other. Volume, volume, volume....

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Jun 10th, 2016 07:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How about working out a rotating bass role?
Just a thought.

I was in a similar situation many years ago. We put together a band with friends - drums, keys, and 3 guitar players. We decided that we really did need a bass, but adding another player seemed excessive. So I bought a bass rig and we rotated the bass duties between the 3 guitar players.
It actually worked out pretty well.

Bonus was that I learned how to properly play bass AND I eventually learned to sing while playing it.

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Robbinsville, NJ

what do you mean the bass is too loud?
Jun 10th, 2016 12:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Doesn't the 5120 do bass range?

or are you tuned for baritone...

greg1948
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Jun 10th, 2016 09:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm thinking it may come to that. Really does make sense for us to share bass duties. Only problem might be that we'd play it like a guitar player, not a bassist.

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Jun 10th, 2016 10:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Who says you need a bassist? If you have a good drummer to keep the bottom-end poppin' you're golden.

Work up some interesting and different arrangements of all the standards, and nobody will know the difference.

If anyone asks where the bass player is, tell them your fifth bassist in as many weeks spontaneously combusted at a gig two days ago.

Dolemite

What It Was!

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Jun 11th, 2016 04:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You need bass in the place.

p5string

UNnited States

Jun 12th, 2016 05:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Why don't one of you grab a BassVI and play bass parts on that?

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Jun 13th, 2016 05:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My former bandmate cut some regional hit records without a bassist back in the late '50's. Imagine having six pieces and no bass.

The early Teles had a switch position for "bass". I'd recommend having one of your guitarists playing the bass parts on the four lowest guitar strings string. No extra equipment needed.

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Jun 13th, 2016 09:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Really does make sense for us to share bass duties. Only problem might be that we'd play it like a guitar player, not a bassist."

Yeah, there is that tendency....but you can learn not to do that. It does take some practice, but that's what rehearsals are for.
Heck, I learned - and if I did, anyone can.

All that said, I recently played for a while in a trio with an acoustic guitar, me on electric, and a djembe player. No bass, and we sounded fine. I just tried to focus more on the lower register as much as I could to fill things out, especially while we were singing.
With 3 electric guitars and a full drum kit it might be a little trickier, but with some arranging I'm sure it could be done.

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Jun 14th, 2016 09:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tuning down to drop D on the guitar will help fill some of the bottom end as well.

I've played numerous times with no bass or no drums. For the music I do, if I have one or the other, I'm good.

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Jun 14th, 2016 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Put a baritone neck on one of the guitars and play low-


Tony Wright

Stillwater, OK

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Jun 16th, 2016 06:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Work hard to control the volume monster...and party on. Bands are made to "break rules". There is NO federal law saying "must have drums, rhythm guitar, lead guitar, bass and keyboards."

However, depending on the player, sometimes there SHOULD be a federal law that harmonica players should not be allowed to sit in or perform...

...just sayin'

greg1948
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Jun 17th, 2016 05:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We may be down to two guitars shortly. Two of us sing lead and can play lead guitar. The third guy spent lots of time telling us how many famous people he played with in the day, how many bands, etc. But talking with the drummer yesterday, we both agreed that for all his boasting, he had a lot of shortcomings as a guitar player. His tone is shrill, he plays over the vocals and too loud. But then his solos don't cut through at all. We're going to have to straighten this guy out soon.

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Jun 17th, 2016 04:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds like he wouldn't make a very good bass player either.

greg1948
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Jul 15th, 2016 05:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm going to have to do something about the third guitarist. He's a nice guy and all but it's just not working out. Too much guitar clutter in the sound. And now I have a keyboard player who's interested, so we need to jettison a guitar player.

I'm just not good at this stuff, firing someone, that is. Having been let go from a band, I know how that sucks. But I'm the "bandleader" so it's up to me. To soften the blow, I won't put it to him that it is his playing style that is the issue, but rather that we need the keyboards instead.

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Jul 15th, 2016 07:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, it is nasty work--letting go a band member. And it's hard not to take it personally when you're let go.

Whether it's face to face or over the phone is up to you. Email or text is very poor form. And don't convey the message at the end of band practice!

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Jul 15th, 2016 12:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Yeah, it is nasty work--letting go a band member. And it's hard not to take it personally when you're let go."

We had a vocalist that just wasn't cutting it. We had a band meeting and the rest of us just sort of laid it out in a way where he felt like he was quitting instead of us dumping him. It took an hour of discussion, but the basic focus was that we wanted to go in a direction that he didn't. His answer was "well, maybe you need a different singer." We readily agreed. It went far more smoothly than I expected.

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Jul 15th, 2016 03:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, that is a good solution for the issue you were having. It depends on the situation. Peoples is all different.

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