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SandBagger
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Sep 5th, 2016 07:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

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Sep 5th, 2016 08:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hammond you and I have the same problem. I had at least 3 from Music power, also know as guitar trader, and none, none not one made it past a week. I ordered one in in addition to two that they had for stock. Still with it being hand picked, with my guidance for what I liked. Nope. The 15 or 20 that I have subsequently played in GCs from El Cajon/ La Mesa to San Marcos to four or five other GC when visiting my brother make me think the geometric set up on that guitar is not copocetic with my playing style.
I do not like the angle of break on the strings and the feeling that it goes from .5 mm clearance on the first fret to .5 inch at 12. Perhaps this is my issue .
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Sep 7th, 2016 01:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

[[Also, the high "E" transducer didn't seem to want to fit, so I called K&K directly. Got transferred once and talked to a guy who knew exactly what my problem was and how to work around it. ]]

Really curious about this comment.. can you explain further?


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Sep 7th, 2016 01:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sure. One of the braces under the top cut across the top of the bridge plate at about a 45 degree angle, very close to the high E hole. I knew I could angle the lead to the transducer to run along the brace, but the jig used to place the transducer didn't have clearance due to that brace.

The guy from K&K suggested that I flip the jig over, because the opposite corner had more of it cut away, allowing the jig to clear the brace and place the transducer in the proper spot.

Makes perfect sense, if you've done a K&K install before. Probably makes no sense at all if you haven't.

But I hope this helps.



Hammond101
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Sep 7th, 2016 04:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

RTS, yeah it really is a damn shame because I like the way the guitar's looks and feels. It just doesn't ring out and sing to me. Maybe it's the way I address it, hold it or cuddle it, I dunno. I've played many and bonded with none.

If we are ever in the same place at the same time you gotta play my GC6e. Pretty much everything I wanted from a 000-28EC.

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Sep 8th, 2016 02:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My current Martin is a D17M, which sounds and plays fantastic. It really is a cannon and not intimidated by my unruly right hand. Dreads are probably my least favorite looking acoustics, but always win out with my ears. The one Martin that I'd club a baby seal for is the M-36. The one I played at Elderly a few years ago produced glowing angels with the first strum.

SandBagger
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Sep 8th, 2016 07:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Dreads are probably my least favorite looking acoustics, but always win out with my ears."


Exactly!


A parlor is ideal, both size & looks.... but I played dozens of guitars before I bought the D42 back in 1997.

Closed my eyes and let the ears decide.

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Sep 9th, 2016 03:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Congrats Ragtop! Hope it's a really nice one for ya.

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Sep 9th, 2016 06:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A triple 0 is never going to sound like a dread. If dread sound is what you are after, you waste time and effort trying anything but a dread. But, the water gets muddied a bit when you start adding electronics to any acoustic. So, if you plan to play strictly acoustically, it matters more what you play than if you will be using your K&K or Baggs or Fishman, whatever...

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Sep 9th, 2016 09:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My ears have been so spoiled by the tone of a dread that the smaller sizes, including the OOO-28EC, just don't get it done for me.

Yep, all of my acoustics are dreads.

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jhawkr
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Sep 9th, 2016 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

None of my acoustics are dreads.

000-28EC
J-45
AC3R


Hammond101
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Sep 9th, 2016 03:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

For 30 years or so all I owned was dreads. Then I stumbled on the Grand Auditorium shape. Liked it, bought one then got into concert sizes.

I certainly don't expect the smaller bodies to sound like a dread but do expect clarity and tone.

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Sep 9th, 2016 11:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"None of my acoustics are dreads.

000-28EC
J-45
AC3R"

Actually, Gibson considers the J-45 to be a slope-shoulder dreadnaught (or dreadnought, depending on how you want to spell it...)

jhawkr
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Sep 10th, 2016 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Actually, Gibson considers the J-45 to be a slope-shoulder dreadnaught (or dreadnought, depending on how you want to spell it...)"


But nobody else does. Convince a dred purist. A Hummingbird is a dread. A J-45 is a slope shouldered short scale acoustic.

Actually, I do have an old Yamaha 12-string dred.

reverend mikey
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Sep 11th, 2016 08:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

But is the Yamaha 12 a true dread shape? I'm not being picky - but I've noticed that Yamaha calls some of their large folk guitars "dreads," but they're not a standard Martin dread shape (in much the same way as the J-45 is not). Just curious.

jhawkr
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Sep 12th, 2016 04:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A manufacturer can call it what they want I suppose. To me, the J-45 does not sound like a dread. It sounds somewhere between a concert and a jumbo. It is a pretty loud guitar and I like my J-45 better than any dread I've played. The J-45 is also different from a typical dread in that it has a 24" scale. A typical dread is long scale.

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Oct 16th, 2016 07:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Footnote:

I strung (strang?) this EC with a set of Elixir Mediums when I got it, thinking that a Martin Standard guitar should have the heavier strings on it. I really liked the tone, but found that my left hand, which ain't what it used to be, would get tired after playing for an hour or so.

So I tried a set of Elixir Lights, which is the string I use on all my other guitars. But I was afraid that there would be a drop off in tone.

I am happy to report that the tone is a bit different, but more to my liking. The tone with the Lights seems to be more "airy" and resonant than with the Mediums. And I'm surprised at the degree that it is easier to play, it's quite significant.

I'm glad I made the change.

kego
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Oct 16th, 2016 08:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm pretty sure Martin recommends that you only use lights (.12's) on their 000 guitars.

Oh, and *some* of my acoustics are dreds...lol

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Oct 16th, 2016 03:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I'm pretty sure Martin recommends that you only use lights (.12's) on their 000 guitars."

If they're 24.5" or 24.9" scale length, they must be braced lightly, if they can't handle mediums with that shorter scale...

urby
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Oct 24th, 2016 11:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Also a 000-28EC owner. I bought it 10-15 years ago new. Wasn't crazy about it being a signature model but it was just what I was looking for at the time. Balanced sounding smaller bodied acoustic good for finger picking and with a pick. Mine's a sunburst model, one of the first.

I use Martin Retro Custom Lights on mine.

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