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jazzguy
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May 5th, 2016 02:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

this has become a real problem on one of our regular gigs.
an aquaintance had been sitting in for a few months and really wore out his welcome, which frankly was not welcome in the first place.

we never asked him to play, he'd just show up and start playing.

then he disappeared for a few months and we thought he'd finally gotten the hint.
but no, he showed up last week and I immediately told him he could play a tune or two, that's all.

he said fine, no problem, but proceeded to play almost the whole night, even after I told him he was done.

I realize the big mistake on my part was letting it get to this point, should have nipped it in the bud from the beginning before it got out of hand. so this is really my fault in the end.

now I'm confronted w/having to get rid of him in an unpleasant manner, or have the bouncers eject him.

reverendrob
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May 5th, 2016 06:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"We had a band meeting. No more sit-ins."

littleuch
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May 5th, 2016 06:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Is he reachable by email or phone? I'd say an honest preemptive strike as in "look, you've taken liberties by staying on stage longer than invited. Please don't invite yourself to sit in with us anymore. If it's that important to you, then you should get into a band."

It may be unpleasant, but not as ugly as a bouncer yanking him off stage. I generally hate sit in's. There have been few exceptions. One gig we'd have the cook of the restaurant come out, tear off his apron and sit in for a few numbers. He was a monster guitar player (and a great cook), who as I recall told me once he was Howard Robert's grandson.

reverendrob
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May 5th, 2016 06:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If I was playing somewhere or with folks for whom this was a problem, I'd also get a sign to put on the top of somebody's amp saying "No sit-ins."



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May 5th, 2016 07:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"We had a band meeting. No more sit-ins."

+1000

BbendFender
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May 5th, 2016 07:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We don't have much of a problem with this but at one our our past reunion get togethers, our rhythm guitar player/singer invited an old friend who used to follow us back in the 70's. He sang on every single song we did. Not harmony but melody. We turned down his mic but he immediately noticed it and said "hey, turn me up a little more". It was pure misery.
All in all, we never really had a problem with sit ins.

Juice Nichols
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May 5th, 2016 07:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Had a guy once that we let up to sing a couple songs. It was ok for a couple of times as he didn't completely suck, but that quickly escalated to him inviting his friends to our gigs and expecting to get up and sing, I nipped that **** in the bud right then and there. It didn't end well, but oh well.

jazzguy
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May 6th, 2016 10:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

the worst part is he's a horrible musician.
we'll see waht happens tonight, it could get ugly.

littleuch
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May 6th, 2016 10:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

All the more reason to get rid of him. If he hasn't already, he'll be chasing off customers. Tell me he's not a harmonica player :-p

What's amazing to me is how clueless these types are. No intuition into reading the lack of enthusiasm by the band.

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 12:16 PM, May 6th, 2016)

Vic Vega

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May 6th, 2016 10:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You are INSANE to let a lousy musician sit in and screw up your set. "We had a band meeting. No more sit-ins." is all you need to say. Be firm and do not let him up there under ANY circumstance.

Consider it a valuable lesson learned.

jazzguy
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Philly, B-3 Capital

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May 6th, 2016 10:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

trumpet playing = horrible
rest of the tunes, cowbell = beyond annoying
he should probably just join Blue Oyster Cult.


super mario
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May 6th, 2016 10:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Over the years, we had a couple of sit-ins but they were one time events. I have been asked when visiting with former band mates if I wanted to sit in, never did as I felt like it was intruding on their gig time. Also I don't tend to carry guitars and gear with me on the "pretense" that I can just show up.....Agree with the others, simple statement "Had a band meeting, no more sit-ins."

Juice Nichols
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May 6th, 2016 10:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've sat in with a few bands around here, but they've always asked "me" not the other way around. I've never brought an instrument with me with the idea that I'm going to hop on stage with them. If I do get up, I play a couple songs and get off the stage.

Personally, I would rather just sit back and listen to the band.

Hammond101
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May 6th, 2016 11:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It can get uuuugly. At one point in a former band we had a guy who always wanted to get up and sing La Bamba over our Twist and Shout.

The guy wasn't bad at that song but every time we played this venue he thought he was entitled to just jump up and sing other songs as well. He pretty much sucked on everything else because he had no TV monitor with the lyrics. Just kept repeating the chorus, yikes. One night he was drunk and we told him no way Jose, sorry but no, get off the stage. He got angry and loud then grabbed the neck of the Tele I had strapped on. Sorry but somehow he pounded his face against the headstock. Down he went....boom.

The bouncers bounced him and he left a bit bloody. So sorry so sad. Gigs are not open mic night.

Currently we have a bunch of us who do pick up bands when one of us have a gig and our other regular players are booked. This bunch is always welcome on stage if the venue permits it. Totally pro. We know each other material and it adds to the vibe done correctly. It's always a quick up and down, one and done type of thing.

Have that talk with this guy before thing get worse.

tahitijack

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May 6th, 2016 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There is an easy fix and it won't mess up your gig. When he sits in for a song you play one with him then start a Ventures (surfing) medley Walk Don't Run, Diamond Head, Hawaii Five O, Slaughter On 10th Ave., Wipe Out, Pipeline, Mr. Moto, Baja....you get the picture. And I hope he does as well.

jazzguy
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don't dream it be it
May 6th, 2016 11:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

the thing that's amazing is he's no newbie to the music scene.

it's common courtesy that if a musician comes by that the band knows, you ask them to play a tune or two, even if they're not the best player.
a tune or two won't kill the whole night.

it's also common courtesy that you wait to be >asked< to sit in and get off as fast you went up, unless asked to play more.

jazzguy
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May 6th, 2016 11:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

well Jack, we're a jazz band so we're not going to be playing a Ventures medley anytime soon, but that hasn't stopped him from trying to play on jazz tunes he doesn't even know--talk about a train wreck.
and the most mind blowing thing is the crowd doesn't seem to mind him!
it's amazing to me how little some audiences know about good or bad music.


themaestro
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May 6th, 2016 12:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"and the most mind blowing thing is the crowd doesn't seem to mind him!"

I'll bet they do mind, but are just being nice. If I go to hear a band or music, I don't want to see some dummy up there messing everything up.

Unfortunately, sometimes the dofus is a member of the band.

Peegoo
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May 6th, 2016 01:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...the crowd doesn't seem to mind him! It's amazing to me how little some audiences know about good or bad music."

I don't think that's the real reason.

I think it has more to do with the mass appeal of crap TV shows such as Jersey Shore. Watching a train wreck can be as entertaining as listening to a decent jazz combo every night of the week :o)

Peegoo
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May 6th, 2016 01:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...the crowd doesn't seem to mind him! It's amazing to me how little some audiences know about good or bad music."

I don't think that's the real reason.

I think it has more to do with the mass appeal of crap TV shows such as Jersey Shore. Watching a train wreck can be as entertaining as listening to a decent jazz combo every night of the week :o)

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