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FDP Forum / FDP Unplugged - Acoustic Instruments / Want a Hide Glue Acoustic? Try a Takamine!

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Apr 26th, 2016 06:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The August 2012 issue of Acoustic Guitar Magazine has a great article on Takamine. It says they've always used and will continue to use hide glue on their Pro Level series of guitars. Those guitars are all built at the HQ facility in Japan.

The cheaper laminated models are made in Korea and China and do not use hide glue.

I owned a wonderful TAN16C w/cool tube for awhile and I wonder why I ever sold it.

Don't want to pay a $1500 upcharge for a hide glue guitar? Take a look a Takamine's Pro Level guitars.

Takamine Pro Level Guitars

(This message was last edited by 6L6 at 08:56 PM, Apr 26th, 2016)

Vic Vega

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May 11th, 2016 10:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So, other than the ability to use steam to separate parts that can't be separated with some non-organic based glues, what even tiny bit of difference do you suppose hide glue makes?

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May 13th, 2016 07:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I own 3 Takamine guitars. I have an EF341SC and 2 old lawsuit guitars. I bought my first Tak in 1978 and it was a fine, top of the line, guitar. I play my EF341 at gigs and have never had a problem with it except for the RCA plug, inside the guitar, got loose once.

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May 13th, 2016 09:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"So, other than the ability to use steam to separate parts that can't be separated with some non-organic based glues, what even tiny bit of difference do you suppose hide glue makes?"

I think you've named the only real benefit: being able to get the neck off to do a reset if needed.

I doubt ANYONE could really identify two otherwise identical guitars by tone if one was hide glue and the other wasn't.

twangdoodles

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May 13th, 2016 09:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"what even tiny bit of difference do you suppose hide glue makes?"

Why bother posting?

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May 14th, 2016 06:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I took it to be respect for the construction aspect, much the same as using nitro, tubes, rosewood or even ivory -- it's nice to see someone using a respected traditional method without gouging the end user.

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May 14th, 2016 08:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Remember that "hide glue" can mean several things.

Traditional hide glue is made with hoof and hide flakes (or powder) and water, and it has to be cooked up and kept hot in order to use it. It is labor intensive and quite wasteful if the prepared amount exceeds the amount used on a project.

Modern hide glues are quite different; they don't need to be kept hot during use, and they last longer (a month or two) in the bottle. The reason is there are resins added to make the goop more stable over time.

Trad hide glues come apart quite easily with steam or when soaked for a time in water. Modern versions are more tenacious.

Other glue formulations like Titebond 50 (aliphatic resin) make more sense than trad or modern hides because they are pre-mixed, super strong, can be disassembled with steam, and have a long shelf life in the bottle.

The only time I use hide glue is if I'm doing a repair on something that had hide glue holding it together. New builds all get Titebond.

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