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FDP Forum / The Chop Shop / Manic Depression help (the song, not the illness!)

Mick Reid
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Apr 12th, 2016 07:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK, I can play it. I can sing it...
however, putting the two together is making me mental! (no pun intended)

I'm getting the main part of the verse better now, but the sticky point is the bridge (at least that's what I'm calling it) the part in E with the lyric "Music, sweet music..."

The vocal rhythm & melody feel somewhat counter to what my hands are doing so I'm having trouble nailing it.

Has anyone learnt this song that can offer any tips to getting the vox & guitar to fit together?

TIA

5Strats
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Apr 13th, 2016 11:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You just have to practice singing and playing it together, there's really no alternative.

It's that whole split brain thing, but building muscle memory for both the guitar playing and the vocals will seal the deal.

Tyrone Shuz

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Apr 13th, 2016 12:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The guitar is largely a constant, especially if you play the same one. Sure, weather can affect setup, and you may be warmed up or not, etc, but the distances and moves are all the same.

A voice has no frets and requires more concentration, and things like weather and physical wellness have extreme effects on the voice, and the energy it takes to produce a given note.

Given those two things--and this is true for any tune--learn the guitar part /in your sleep/. That way you can concentrate on the vocal. It's the only way to do it.

Don't even try doing them both at once till the guitar part requires no concentration at all. Then you'll be able to sing it and play it.

gdw3

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Apr 13th, 2016 01:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Agree with Tyrone. Get to where you can play the guitar part without thinking. Then you can concentrate on singing, which is what most non-guitar-playing audience members care about.

Mick Reid
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Apr 13th, 2016 04:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh, come on!
There must be some magic bullet you guys aren't sharing with me! :^)

I think I knew the answer to this post as soon as I typed it...

p-r-a-c-t-i-c-e...

Thanks guys!

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Apr 15th, 2016 03:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Try playing bass and singing.

Holy COW the people that can do this well are truly mindblowing.

Mick Reid
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Apr 15th, 2016 03:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Try playing bass and singing."

Yeah, no kidding!
Didn't Billy Cox sing Manic Depression at some point? In Band of Gypsy's maybe?

Pair O Singles

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Apr 16th, 2016 12:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I remember seeing a video with Levon Helm where he explained how he practiced singing and playing drums simultaneously. He talked about figuring out how certain keywords would fall on certain hits that were easy to get right, and slowly fill in the blanks from there.

Mick Reid
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Apr 18th, 2016 04:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

@ Pair O Singles:

Yeah, that's the kind of approach I've been taking particularly with the bridge part.

I've put it down for a couple of days because I was making myself crazy over it.
I'm letting my brain process the work I've already done, then I'll give it another hit later.

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