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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: 1985 - Current / Trade CVR for Blues Deluxe?

swampyankee
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olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Mar 8th, 2016 02:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm trying to sell my CVR and I was offered a Blues Deluxe Reissue in part-trade along with some cash. Although I was hoping for all cash, the amount he's offering is enough to pay off a recent purchase.
I've always wanted to try one of the Blues series amps (Junior, Deluxe, Deville), but I'm not sure how it fits into my stable. I've got a 12" speaker-equipped SCXD (15 watts), a Vibroverb RI (40 watts), the Bandmaster VM (also 40 watts), and my old S.S. Deluxe 112.
It seems I have the 40 watt, blackface and brownface territory pretty well covered. Is the Blues Deluxe sonically different enough to provide variety beyond what I already have?

carsten

on the rhine

Mar 8th, 2016 04:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi swampyankee!

If you´re doing well in the trade, you might as well try out how you like the BD.
I think it´s a nice amp, and would prefer it over your BM VM.
I would say it sounds warmer/fuller than a CVR, but you might not gain a whole lot over your Vibroverb...

cheers - C.





swampyankee
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olde New England

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Mar 9th, 2016 05:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My CVR has had the Moyer mods which convert it to Vibroverb spec, so other than different speakers, it's essentially redundant. Unless I make it into a head to replace the BM VM.

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Mar 9th, 2016 12:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The HRD has a very nice clean channel. I think it would be a nice addition to your stable of amps. I'm a 2-6L6 guy and that's about all I play unless I bring out the TR or Showman so I'm I bit jaded.

The drive channel on these HRD amps has improved with the III series amps but it still not that great IMO. The clean channel with a pedal for OD really kills. These can get very loud!

swampyankee
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olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Jul 29th, 2016 01:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Still thinking about replacing my "redundant" CVR.

I played an outdoor gig the other night and I wasn't digging the tone of the CVR. Hard to explain, but it seemed kind of honk-y to me. Middy, but not in a good way. I had it cranked to about 5-6, and it seemed like it was pushed beyond it's headroom (its modded so it should have more, right?). Nice growl when you wanted it, but not when trying to play clean.

The speakers are questionable - one late model Jensen C10Q and one '70's Oxford. tone and headroom might improve with a decent set of C10N's or the equivalent Weber or Warehouse brand. But should I just cut bait and switch to a brighter 40 watt amp, like a Blues Deluxe?

Hammond101
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Jul 29th, 2016 04:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've said before that I've owned two CVR amps and sold both. I like the 2-6L6 format for live play but these things only worked well in a small gig situation and lacked headroom. Very compressed and mid-rangey as you say.

I think you'd get a lot more mileage out of a Blue Dlx. I'd plan on pedals rather than the drive channel but pedals I'm sure you already have.

swampyankee
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Aug 1st, 2016 05:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm not much on pedals, but I have what I need for the music we play. I think if the Bandmaster VM could do the blackface thing better (maybe it does, but I have nothing to compare it to), then I wouldn't be having this conversation.
But then again, a giggable blackface-y combo would be handy to have. The other option might be a '68 Custom Vibrolux Reverb. I've heard they do the blackface thing pretty well.

Hal G.
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Aug 3rd, 2016 09:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I also have a CVR with the Moyer mods. It increased the headroom but it will break up at 5 or 6 if the guitar has humbuckers. I bet the Blues Deluxe has more headroom.

RainboGuy

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Aug 31st, 2016 08:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Blues Deluxe Reissue has a VERY different voice than any of the amps you currently have.

Think Old-School, warm, Tube-y Sounding Chicago School of Blues.....and you're about THERE......

It's a GREAT Amp and under-appreciated, in my opinion.

I replaced the stock speaker in mine with an Eminence Cannabis Rex, re-tubed with GOOD tubes......and it's SWEET.

It also has as part of the circuitry a speaker output jack in the back that I run into a 2x12 Open-Back Cabinet with 2 Celestion Vintage 30's in it.

The tone of this 40 Watt amp with The Cannabis Rex on top and the 2 Vintage 30's on the bottom is VERY BIG.

Think Vibro King-Like.........

swampyankee
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olde New England

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Aug 31st, 2016 09:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Although I'm still looking to sell or trade the CVR, I picked up a '90's Concert Amp (post-Rivera). It is supposedly voiced like a Bassman, but with a bright switch that gives it a nice blackface brightness. But with the bright switch off, it has that dark tone of a tweed'y amp and the gain channel can get a good tweed-type of drive going. I'm thinking this amp probably covers the same ground you're saying the Blues Deluxe covers.

carsten

on the rhine

Aug 31st, 2016 05:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi swampyankee!

I sure hope you´ll like the Concert, but it does´t seem like the whole concept will lend itself to a "tweedy" vibe so easily - plus, we´re talking about 60 watts, which may be quite a lot of power to deal with...

cheers - C.


swampyankee
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olde New England

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Aug 31st, 2016 06:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The 90s Concert Amp was supposed to be based around the 59 Bassman circuit, and has a second channel with 2 gain stages. It can get pretty dark and grindy

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