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roadhog96

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Mar 4th, 2016 06:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm new to Fender and never had a strings through body guitar before so please excuse me but what am I looking at. The high E string brass ball end is visible up inside the ferrule hole in the body but what is the rest of those brass pieces in the holes? It's not the ball ends of the strings sitting in the hole sideways is it?

Check it out

(This message was last edited by roadhog96 at 08:11 PM, Mar 4th, 2016)

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Mar 4th, 2016 06:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

who in the heck loaded those strings ?

I'll bet the other end

Looks like this !

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Mar 4th, 2016 06:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

And yes, I think your fears are confirmed.

Get yourself a small precisian screwdriver, they ones the sell at Walgreens for the eyeglass fix it kit will do.

Cut the strings at the bridge, and poke that screwdriver down the hole to push the ends out.

How that was accomplished is beyond me. In all my years of playing I've never seen or done that trick.

(This message was last edited by Stratmanx at 08:22 PM, Mar 4th, 2016)

roadhog96

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Mar 4th, 2016 06:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So it's the ball ends sitting sideways, your kidding me. I'm not the one who did it. It was like that when I got it. The guitar is like new and looks like it was hardly used but as soon as I saw this I knew something wasn't right. Must have been somebody else's first guitar and didn't know what they were doing. How they managed to get the high E right is beyond me, must have been an accident. Thanks for confirming this, and the other end is neatly done with 3 wire wraps around the post, go figure? I have several sets of those little screwdrivers so I'm good.

(This message was last edited by roadhog96 at 09:41 PM, Mar 4th, 2016)

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Mar 4th, 2016 07:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

100% normal. Those are similar to bullet-end strings. Rather than a typical ball with the core wrapped and twisted around it, the bullet end is made from brass rod and has a through-hole the string goes in. The brass bullet is swaged (squeezed) onto the string.

See how the lower (fatter) strings have larger through-holes in your pic?

Some goober broke the high E (probably in the store) and they replaced that one with a ball-end string.

Look here.

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Mar 4th, 2016 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I'll bet the other end - Looks like this !"

Hah! Good one Stratmanx! that made me snort!
Fortunately I wasn't drinking coffee at the time...


roadhog,
Just looks like two different string brands to me.
E6-B look like Fender "Bullet" Strings and the E1 looks like one of a dozen other brands (eg: D'Addario)

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Mar 4th, 2016 07:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep.

It just got serious.

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Mar 4th, 2016 07:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Kudo's Geno !

The thought of bullets never entered my mind.

This is a good lesson I'll not soon overlook.



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Mar 4th, 2016 08:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cheers, brother :o)

roadhog96

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Mar 5th, 2016 10:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Bullet end guitar strings, well this is a first for me. I've been playing for over 50 years and never seen or heard of them. Now I see why it looks so odd. That explains why the high E is set so deep into the hole. I did a search for Bullet end strings and Fender is the only one that came up that makes these. It says they are primarily used in vibrato blocks for better sustain due to there mass and contact surface. I wonder if they add anything to a through body set up. I did notice the high E doesn't have as much snap to it like the rest. It sounds kind of dull and weak compared to the rest of the strings. I wonder if it's because the ends are different.

(This message was last edited by roadhog96 at 02:02 PM, Mar 5th, 2016)

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Mar 5th, 2016 12:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's probably because it's a different string (metal alloy).

One of the reasons why it's always good practice to swap in single strings (when needed) that are made by the same guys that made the strings already on the guitar.

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Mar 5th, 2016 04:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"One of the reasons why it's always good practice to swap in single strings (when needed) that are made by the same guys that made the strings already on the guitar."

^Too right^

I had bought a bunch of no-name cheapy singles for backups once and could hear a difference in the tone when replacing 1 broken string. The "new" sounded like a lifeless used string and it didn't intonate properly either.

Lesson learnt...

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Mar 21st, 2016 10:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Back in the old days" those Bullet strings had a single steel bullet that completely surrounded the string. I think I'd been playing for a couple years when they were introduced (1982?). Switched to them, never looked back. Tried to find a picture online, couldn't locate.

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